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| ggcaer |
 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: MQ workflow 3.4 Beginings |
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Does anybody really use this product ?
Do you use it thru Holosofx or WBI ? or by itself ?
How do you care about process management ? versionning ?
How many designers do you have ?
What is your organization for the team : business analysts, designers, mq & j2ee&wmqintegrator developpers... ?
How do you update Staff ? What about passwords which users can change themselves in web client ? ...
How do you organize dev, test, prod environment ? transfers from one env. to another ?
Do you have naming objects advice to give...
I know, here are a lot of questions... 
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| Prahasith |
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you have to take security clearance to answer those
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| Does anybody really use this product ? |
wrong question on this forum
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| ggcaer |
| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| wrong question on this forum |
you're right . I was just wondering...
Anyway, I have to use it ! Thanks boss ! |
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| Prahasith |
| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Basically your questions depend on the organization architecture and how large your implementation is
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NO, by itself
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| How do you care about process management ? versionning ? |
ClearCase
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2
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14
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| How do you update Staff ? What about passwords which users can change themselves in web client ? ... |
FDL
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FDL
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| Do you have naming objects advice to give... |
you can start with your department name followed by:
for production you can prefix with PROD or APD
for testing prefix with TST or SYS or DEV |
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| sshaker |
| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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You may start with the workflow best practices document.
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| ggcaer |
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| sshaker wrote: |
| You may start with the workflow best practices document. |
I didn't see it. Can you please give a link ? |
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| jmac |
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| sshaker |
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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thnx John!
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| ggcaer |
| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys
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| ggcaer |
| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your answers. Here are some more precise things about which i would have your opinion :
Versionning : what do you keep in your versioning repository : one full run time fdl ? one fdl for topology, another for full staff, another one for each process & related objects... ?
Team : 14 guys only for workflow dev ? that's a nice workforce Are designers/business analysts part of IT ? How many processes do you ship to your business each month ? What is an average delay of delivery for a medium complexity process ? Which ratio for each dev phase ?
Staff : I well understood that fdl is the only way do do anything with MQ worfklow I wanted to know if you found one person responsible for manual staff maintenance ou automatically synchronised with an LDAP directory using runbr....
Environment : as I understand your answer, you use only one design db to store dev / test/prod "source" processes ! Tell me I'm wrong ! Isn't it a bit "risky". No, seriously ?
Naming conventions : (no relation with environments) I was curious about naming of categories, processes&related objects (programs, data structures)...
Sorry for being so precise, but I'm in the pool now |
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Versionning : what do you keep in your versioning repository : one full run time fdl ? one fdl for topology, another for full staff, another one for each process & related objects... ?
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Keep one for Topology, one for staff and one for Processes (if you want a seperate FDL for each Process that is fine).
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Environment : as I understand your answer, you use only one design db to store dev / test/prod "source" processes ! Tell me I'm wrong ! Isn't it a bit "risky". No, seriously ?
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Processes for dev/test/prod should be the same, so you dont have to keep modyfying your Process definitions for each environment. You should be able to take a process from Dev and put into Prod with out any changes.
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