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		  | Bracken | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:43 am    Post subject: I need to add a Qmanager to  Workflow Configuration | 
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		    Novice
 
 Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 20 Location: México D.F. 
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				Hi!
 
 
I need to increse the number of user of my workflow configuration. So, i Know that adding a QManager can to add 1000 user. So, how is the best way to do it?
 
 
to day we have a traditional Workflow configuration. I mean, 1 Qmanager for support 1000 users, but  i need to bring service of workflow to 1500 usuers.
 
 
Descriptions
 
 
MQ Workflow V 3.3.2. Fix 4
 
MQ Series 5.2.1 Fix 5
 
DB2 7.1 fix 10
 
 
Workflow Configuration
 
 
Architecture for Produccion on three layers.
 
1 Qmanager available to 1000 users conections.
 
 
Any ideas....thx!    _________________ SUE | 
			   
			 
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		  | vennela | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 11:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
 Joined: 11 Aug 2002 Posts: 4055 Location: Hyderabad, India 
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				I think you meant to say "Add another workflow server". 3-tier architecture makes sense but to load balance, you need to have a client concentrator. What type of client are you using (web-client, fat client???)
 
 
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		  | Bracken | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:01 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Hi Vennela:
 
 
Thank you for your  colaboration.
 
 
We´r using a Fat client. And, ciertaly i need a client concentrator.  But, i dont know if this client concentrator can be configured like a server, or how is the way  to configure that client concentrator. Ãt is necesary copy a chltabs of the new cliente concentrator to each  client (user computer)? or  not?
 
 
 
 
Sorry, my english isn´t very good. But i try!
 
 
Thanks!!!!
 
 
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		  | Ratan | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand Master
 
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				Client Concentrator needs to be configured as a client with a Queue Manager. 
 
 
Yes, you have to copy the chltab of the client concentrator to each client. _________________ -Ratan | 
			   
			 
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		  | sshaker | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Disciple
 
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				Hi Sue 
 
Your english is understandable and If I am not wrong there are quite a number of users from non-english speaking countries. 
 
 
I think you are on the right track to increase the number of users for your workflow system. Pleaes refer to the Appendix A in the Redbook SG24-6590-00 and quick client concentrator setup in installation guide for further information. 
 
 
 
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		  | Bracken | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: I tried to creata a client concentrator, but I filed!! | 
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				Hi! 
 
 
I had tried to create a Cliente Concentrator, using FMCZUTIL script. 
 
 
I tried with the "Client With QManager" option. The scritp runs ok, but when I try to run the new QManager (Client Concentrator),  appear an error message:
 
 
 
$ strmqm FMCQMCD
 
AMQ8118: MQSeries queue manager does not exist.
 
 
So, Im don´t  understand why?
 
 
I had been loking for the new Qmanager, but doesn´t exist..... Just appears on /var/fmc/qmgrs.  But, when I tried to runs, the message appear again.
 
 
We don´t have any key for this path: /var/mqm/qmgrs
 
 
What can i find the  new Qmanager?¡????
 
 
 
It is possible to have  1 Qmanager for the engine of Workflow and other QManager as client Concentrator on the same machine????
 
 
 
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		  | vennela | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
 Joined: 11 Aug 2002 Posts: 4055 Location: Hyderabad, India 
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				Bracken:
 
 
I am not sure what happened, but looks like the Queue Manager is not created. 
 
On a command prompt run dspmq and it will tell you whether the queue manager that you are looking for exists or not. 
 
 
What OS are you running this on. 
 
 
On a windows machine I tried to create a client concentrator using fmczutil and got this
 
 
   
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-  FMC33760I A queue manager has been found that is already configured for WebSp
 
here MQ Workflow. Do you want to use this queue manager for your client setup?
 
-  FMC33753I Following queue managers configured for MQ Workflow were found on y
 
our machine:
 
FMCQM
 
 
-  FMC33717I Do you want to reuse one of this queue managers ?
 
     y ... Yes
 
     n ... No | 
   
 
 
 
Maybe you have by mistake said y and it didn't create the queue manager. 
 
The selections you made will be stored in a file. That might help you in figuring what went wrong. 
 
 
   
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	It is possible to have 1 Qmanager for the engine of Workflow and other QManager as client Concentrator on the same machine???? 
 
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Yes. That is absolutely possible
 
 
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		  | lillo | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:37 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Remember the workflow is 3.3.2 and I think the concentrator configuration is only supported in version 3.4. But the client concentrator is also possible to configure in version 3.3.2. _________________ Lillo
 
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		  | Bracken | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:14 pm    Post subject: I´ll do it again! | 
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		    Novice
 
 Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 20 Location: México D.F. 
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				Hi!
 
 
Been more clearly
 
 
 
My OS system is Sun Solaris 8. And Lillo said that a Concentrator configuration isn´t supported on MQ Workflow 3.3.2. But the Client Concentrator do. So i'll try to create another configuration and as soon as possible i will let you know 
 
 
Thanks for you help.
 
 
Greatings!!   _________________ SUE | 
			   
			 
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