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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:08 am    Post subject: WBI Modeller 5.1 is announced | 
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		    Yatiri
 
 Joined: 25 May 2002 Posts: 664 Location: South East London 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		   Novice
 
 Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 16 Location: UK 
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				Anyone looking for a replacement workflow design tool that produces FDLs will be in for a disappointment. Just take a look at what Modeler 5.1 does not do (taken from product documentation):
 
 
   
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FDL elements not generated
 
 
This section lists the elements that are not generated when you export from Business Integration Modeler to FDL files.
 
 
The following FDL elements are not generated:
 
 
. Process attributes
 
 
Valid from 
 
Global container 
 
Process administrator 
 
Duration of process 
 
Control setting (Control tab settings on process: audit trail, notification mode, etc.) 
 
Activity setting (Activity tab settings on process) 
 
 
 
. Program/Process activity attributes
 
 
Execution setting (Execution tab setting on program/process activity: execution server, etc.) 
 
Expiration 
 
Tools 
 
Notification 
 
Control setting (Control tab settings on program/process activity) 
 
System (on process activity) 
 
 
 
. Connector 
 
 
Data loop connector 
 
Default connector 
 
Default data connector (generated only for an empty activity) 
 
 
 
. Network
 
 
Anything related to network topology (such as UPES or queue manager) is not supported 
 
 
 
. Program
 
 
Programs are not supported (an empty program is generated for any program activity that is generated) 
 
 
 
. Visuals
 
 
Visual information is not exported 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
 Joined: 27 Jun 2001 Posts: 3081 Location: EmeriCon, LLC 
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				My Opinion:
 
 
Modeler 5.1 is not an "FDL" or "BPEL" generator replacement like the old Modeler.  You should view it as a Business Analysts tool only.
 
 
For MQWF I would recommend you stay with Modeler 4.2.4 and Buildtime.  For WPC, you will not be able to avoid usint the WPC Modeler, so from the development side of things I would think you only use the Process Editor and leave Modeler 5.1 to the Business Analyst _________________ John McDonald
 
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:08 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Yatiri
 
 Joined: 25 May 2002 Posts: 664 Location: South East London 
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				| This is a real shame, I expected the functionality to be a superset of 4.2.4. | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Apprentice
 
 Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 27
  
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				I looked to download WBI Modeler 5.1 on IBM site. I didn't find it. can you tell, where can I find down loadable version ?
 
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Yatiri
 
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