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				 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: Trouble with cluster concept | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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				Looking to configure something like:
 
 
Local queue in A clustered
 
 
A:  >>>>>>>> B:
 
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        >>>>>>>C:
 
 
HA
 
 
Put to A becomes available for get in B
 
If B is down becomes available for get in C
 
 
I am brand new at clustering, I have searching and reading for days and have run out of time.  When I create the cluster it works in reverse.
 
 
ANY help would be appreciated | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject:  | 
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		   Grand Master
 
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				| As per your other thread, clustering has nothing to do with high availability. | 
			   
			 
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		  | wskibum | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject:  | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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				Sorry about 2 threads, posted in the wrong area and couldn't find a way to delete it.
 
That's noit a very constructive comment. Something like :That won't work, or that might work but you need to look for other options would have been more help. | 
			   
			 
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		  | fjb_saper | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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	| wskibum wrote: | 
   
  
	Sorry about 2 threads, posted in the wrong area and couldn't find a way to delete it.
 
That's noit a very constructive comment. Something like :That won't work, or that might work but you need to look for other options would have been more help. | 
   
 
 
 
Well there was a huge hint there that you seem to have missed.
 
What Jeff is essentially telling you is that MQ Cluster and HA Cluster are 2 completely different things... as well as MQ Cluster and WAS Cluster with JMS Engine (SIBUS) are 2 completely different things...
 
 
Have fun reading up...   _________________ MQ & Broker admin | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:08 am Post subject:  | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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				My bad, should not have used the term "HA".  Instead lets call it "Work Load Balancing"
 
 
Here is a quote is from IBM regarding the subject.  If it sound familiar it's because basically it's what I am trying to do.
 
 
“Workload balancing:
 
When a cluster contains more than one instance of the same queue, workload balancing determines the best queue manager to route
 
A message to.  It takes into consideration:
 
 
-the availability of channels, the queue manager and queues
 
-how to treat a local copy of the queue (CLWLUSEQ in v6).” | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:10 am Post subject:  | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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				Actually the solution to this was very simple, too bad it took me so long to figure out.
 
 
Local queues are created on B & C instead of A. I had it backwards.
 
Does round robin by default, fiddling with rank and priority settings now.
 
 
A great resource was found here which helped me to understand where I was going wrong.
 
 
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r2/ic2924/books/csqzah03.pdf | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:  | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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