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				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Web Service Eventing | 
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		  | Esa | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| After a very quick glance at the page you referenced - without opening any of the links there - it seems to me that Web Service Eventing might be an effort to standardize something that is already implemented in Message Broker as Business monitoring... | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject:  | 
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				In general, broker is very good at documenting the things that it DOES support, such that if you don't find reference to it in the documentation, that means it IS NOT supported - at least officially.
 
 
You can always open a PMR to get an official answer. | 
			   
			 
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		  | kimbert | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject:  | 
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				WMB Monitoring or Web Service 'Eventing'? Horses for courses, I'd say.    | 
			   
			 
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		  | Esa | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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	WMB Monitoring or Web Service 'Eventing'? Horses for courses, I'd say.    | 
   
 
 
 
   Now I had to read the specs.
 
 
It seems WS-eventing is just publish-subscribe for web services the way ws-addresssing is asynchronous messaging for web services.
 
 
So it's not a way of receiving automatic status information of asynchronous service requests that have not yet been responded to, as I first thought...
 
 
WMB should not act as a service endpoint, so supporting WS-eventing as such does not seem to make sense. From WMB point of view supporting WS-eventing would be a configurable mechanism for redirecting subsriptions and publications that would be able to bridge protocols, too, I suppose? | 
			   
			 
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		  | mqjeff | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| Esa wrote: | 
   
  
	| WMB should not act as a service endpoint,  | 
   
 
 
I disagree. | 
			   
			 
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		  | Esa | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand Master
 
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	| mqjeff wrote: | 
   
  
	
   
	| Esa wrote: | 
   
  
	| WMB should not act as a service endpoint,  | 
   
 
 
I disagree. | 
   
 
 
 
You're right. I ment to say: "WMB should not implement a service". I know you will disagree that, too.
 
 
I seems I need a break. Merry Christmas! | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| Esa wrote: | 
   
  
	
   
	| mqjeff wrote: | 
   
  
	
   
	| Esa wrote: | 
   
  
	| WMB should not act as a service endpoint,  | 
   
 
 
I disagree. | 
   
 
 
 
You're right. I ment to say: "WMB should not implement a service". I know you will disagree that, too. | 
   
 
 
In fact, I do disagree with that too.
 
 
But I'm specifically not saying you're wrong, just that I disagree.
 
  
 
 
   
	| Esa wrote: | 
   
  
	| I seems I need a break. Merry Christmas! | 
   
 
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