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| bower5932 |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| This means it's a seperate course?. 1. Linux, 2. Win, 3. Unix?. 3 different classes?. |
IBM usually offers Windows, AIX, Sun, in the same classroom, at the same time. Same lecture material for all; hands-on lab exercises are done on different servers.
Take a look at www.ibm.com/training.
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WM151 is Windows System Administration
WM152 is AIX
WM155 is Sun/Solaris
If you are a Linux person, Linux is UNIX, so WM152 would work for you.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't WM155 (Sun / Solaris ) be even closer to the Linux flavor than AIX? 
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps so. Installation is somewhat different from AIX to Linux. The Quick Beginnings for WMQ Linux manual has the Linux-specific installation instructions and commands.
For midrange WMQ (Windows, UNIX), the WMQ System Administration manual is consistent for Windows, and UNIX flavors. For Windows, the slash goes the wrong way (or the other way...), and the Registry replaces the .ini files.
In lab exercises, the MQSC script commands are identical, the control commands (crtmqm, strmqm, etc.) are identical. Vi is vi (an acronym for Very Irritating, I am told).
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| solomon_13000 |
| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| But if we depend on ESQL alone, then our scope as an application programmer or developer is limited right?. As in <= 10%. Much of the work is done by the front end and back end application that talks to MQ?. As in <= 90. |
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| bower5932 |
| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure that I understand what you are asking. If you are saying that most of the work being done is being done outside of the broker (ESQL), then that might be true. However, I know of groups who have done quite a bit of work in the broker (ESQL) and could possibly even argue that their entire application is running as a message flow in the broker. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Poobah
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| But if we depend on ESQL alone... |
Does your organization depend on ESQL alone? For all your application developement? I doubt it.
Your post appears to ask: Is someone who writes ESQL code a programmer? Is ESQL a programming language?
In the broad scope of things I'd say yes, someone who writes ESQL like SQL, has programming skills - a programmer.
Is ESQL a programming language? I'd say that these are extentions that allow a programmer to make use facilities not directly supported by the programming language. You can include SQL calls in C, COBOL, etc.. ESQL, like SQL, has attributes of programming languages, namely: syntax and other coding rules that the programmer must adhere to.
Is this definition exercise really important? Are you negotiating a job-title change or salary?
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| ranganathan |
| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Is this definition exercise really important? Are you negotiating a job-title change or salary? |
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| solomon_13000 |
| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Well the terms are becomming so general that it misleads people. Therefore I take this as of great importance. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Poobah
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| Well the terms are becomming so general... |
This is not a new issue. Job titles only suggest job responsibilities. Sometimes, the person in the job has different responsibilities than the job title implies.
It gets more confusing when job titles have numbers, like: programmer I, programmer II, and so on.
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