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		  | tango | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: MS0R SupportPac no longer available? | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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				| Does anyone know if MS0R (PWServer channel sec exit) is still available?  I can't see it on the IBM SupportPac page, nor on their list of withdrawn SupportPacs. | 
			   
			 
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		  | Michael Dag | 
		  
		    
			  
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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		  | George Carey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: say what? | 
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		   Knight
 
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				In my humble opiniion:
 
 
This is BS... is it reversed engineered or is IBM not willing to hassle for a zero revenue item.
 
 
Was the wheel reverse engineered ?!! _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
 
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
 
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		  | RogerLacroix | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: say what? | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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	| George Carey wrote: | 
   
  
	"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " 
 
 
Martin Luther King Jr. | 
   
 
 
I like that quote.     
 
 
   
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	| This is BS... is it reversed engineered or is IBM not willing to hassle for a zero revenue item. | 
   
 
 
Did you review both MQAUSX and MS0R before offering your 'humble opinion'?  I seriously doubt that you would have made that statement if you had.
 
 
I chose not to be silent about this issue.    
 
 
Regards,
 
Roger Lacroix
 
Capitalware Inc. _________________ Capitalware: Transforming tomorrow into today.
 
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		  | George Carey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Point taken | 
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		   Knight
 
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				Ok,  valid point ... I have not ... I assume IBM has ... what does this say about the state of any supportpac put out as Free and unencumbered... this is not a good precedent!!! _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
 
Bernard F. Lonergan S.J.
 
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		  | RogerLacroix | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Point taken | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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				Hi,
 
 
   
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	| what does this say about the state of any supportpac put out as Free and unencumbered | 
   
 
 
We fully support free SupportPacs.  Our action was against a particular SupportPac and not SupportPacs in general.  
 
 
   
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	| this is not a good precedent!!! | 
   
 
 
Actually, what it shows is that you should stand up and fight for your rights, even if you are challenging a large company - hence, it does set a good precedent.     
 
 
Regards,
 
Roger Lacroix
 
Capitalware Inc. _________________ Capitalware: Transforming tomorrow into today.
 
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		  | jefflowrey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: Point taken | 
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		   Grand Poobah
 
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	| We fully support free SupportPacs.   | 
   
 
 
 
Oh, good. I'll refer all my ms03 customers to you!   
 
 
IBM only supports Cat 3 free support packs.
 
 
Everyone should evaluate the support level of any given support pack before deciding whether to use it in production based on the cost/risk/benefit analysis. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. | 
			   
			 
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		  | RogerLacroix | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Point taken | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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	| We fully support free SupportPacs.   | 
   
 
 
 
Oh, good. I'll refer all my ms03 customers to you!    | 
   
 
 
   Let me try that again.    
 
 
We fully support the concept of free SupportPacs.
 
 
Regards,
 
Roger Lacroix
 
Capitalware Inc. _________________ Capitalware: Transforming tomorrow into today.
 
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		  | George Carey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: support pacs | 
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		   Knight
 
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				No Support is one thing free of legal entanglements are another.
 
 
Only speaking from a perspective of IBM customer,
 
                            a Bad precedent for users of IBM supportpacs. _________________ "Truth is ... grasping the virtually unconditioned",
 
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