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bruce2359
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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simple fail and recovery of a queue manager


1. have WMQ software cds so you can reinstall WMQ base software
2. have crtmqm command that you used to create the qmgr documented so you can create a new qmgr with the same attributes
3. have object definitions (saveqmgr program - support pac ms03, I believe) so you can recreate all the objects

Pretty simple.
But what about messages that may have been in queues?
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suffolk wrote:
For this environment, they are looking at a simple fail and recovery of a queue manager.

In 30 seconds? (H.A. solution)
Or 30 days? (order a new server, build from scratch, any messages in queues are gone)
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HA might appear simple to the untrained observer when it fails over, but HA implementation isn't simple.

There I go again taking the original post literally.
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bruce2359 wrote:
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simple fail and recovery of a queue manager


1. have WMQ software cds so you can reinstall WMQ base software
2. have crtmqm command that you used to create the qmgr documented so you can create a new qmgr with the same attributes
3. have object definitions (saveqmgr program - support pac ms03, I believe) so you can recreate all the objects


Or with v6, backup queue managers, depending on level of failure of course - maybe two strategies depending on level of failure?

So many options.
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Definitions of simple on the Web:

having few parts; not complex or complicated or involved; "a simple problem"; "simple mechanisms"; "a simple design"; "a simple substance"
elementary: easy and not involved or complicated; "an elementary problem in statistics"; "elementary, my dear Watson"; "a simple game"; "found an uncomplicated solution to the problem"

And two more:

childlike: exhibiting childlike simplicity and credulity; "childlike trust"; "dewy-eyed innocence"; "listened in round-eyed wonder"
dim-witted: lacking mental capacity and devoid of subtlety
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H.A. sure isn't simple to implement. But its very simple in action compared to rebuilding the MQ server manually.

I guess "gimmie something simple" depends on who's asking!
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