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| bruce2359 |
 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| thinking about managing 3000 queues gives me nightmares |
What's to manage? Defining objects, especially 3000 of 'em, will be done by an MQSC script. |
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| SAFraser |
| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: |
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What's to manage. Hmmm....
I get these calls:
User: "Can you tell me how many messages I have in my queue?"
Me: "Sure thing. What queue manager do you use?"
User: "Uh, I work in user acceptance."
Me: "Okay, we have several user acceptance environments. Which one do you use?"
User: "The same one as the last time."
Pause while I figure out which queue manager he is using.
Me: "I think I know what queue manager you use. Now which queue are you asking about?"
User: "The one for the updates."
Me: "Updating what?"
And so forth and so on. 
I only have 60-70 queues per queue manager. I shudder to think of 3000. Maybe the key to success will be how the queues and aliases are named.
Good luck sebastia! Do let us know how this all works out for you, this is one of the more interesting questions that has been posted lately. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| SAFraser wrote: |
| And so forth and so on. |
I had no idea our user acceptance testing team had been cloned. 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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To use a "Gartner" style quadrant, with complexity on one scale and cleverness on the other gives four options.
1/ Stupid and complex
2/ Stupid and simple
3/ Clever and complex
4/ Clever and simple
I think the 3000 queues is category 3, try for category 4! |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
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If calls to you are random (as to queue, queue manager, end-user), then there's not much you can do.
However, if the 80/20 rule applies (as it usually does), and it is a subset of users, a subset of qmgrs, and a subset of queues; then you can grant display priviledge, and train users how to display queue depth.
But I doubt queue depth is the real issue. More likely it's a non-responsive or otherwise misbehaving application; and the programmers should field the inquiries, AND resolve the real problem.
I try to push inbound grief back to the folks that caused it in the first place (programmers), and not the folks in the middle that experience the problem (users). |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Grand High Poobah
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| and train users how to display queue depth. |
What - you can train them? 
If they explain the problem in a coherent sentence I consider myself ahead of the curve. Anyone that knows there's a "queue thingy" in the system is promoted!
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