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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You may need to read up and check the different interfaces. If there is no connection pool available you may have to end up creating one.
The concept is not new and I am almost certain that there is also a .NET implementation of it.

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angka
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

The hardware set up are 3 different servers. Web server, IBM MQ server, Database Server.

will be using .net and java web and app on windows server and MQ V6

The business scenrio is as follow..

1) The user enter details using web application and create the new request.
2) The new request will be inserted into the database and a copy of the new request need to be send to MQ server asynchronously to other system.
3) The inserting to Database and sending to the other system should be loose coupled.

Below are my design.
Design A
1) After the new request is inserted into database, the web application calls MSMQ API to put to it queue which resides in the same server.
2) The MSMQ message is send over to the MSMQ queue in the IBM MQ server.
3) An application listens to the MSMQ queue in the IBM MQ server and converts it header to IBM MQ and put to the remote queue to send to other system

Design B
1)After the new request is inserted into database, the web application calls IBM MQ client API to put the message into the remote queue of the IBM MQ server to be sent to other system.

Design A is less tightly couple as after the put to MSMQ, the web application dun care. And there wont be too many points of failure to roll back. the possible roll back for Design A is when the new request cannot be inserted to database and the put to MSMQ failed. This is less likely to happen compare to Design B using MQ client where the network maybe the point of failure.

Is there any other design?

Thank you.
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George Carey
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Solution Designs Reply with quote

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I think yes is a safe answer to your last question. But others may have more suggestions on what they might be.

My input is in reference to a previous post of yours about a red book you found 'but is rather old'. As I am one of the co-authors of that early red book along with Dieter, even I would say it is too old '1997' and speaks to the early howtos of using MQ with Java and Java Client and the initial Java Classes IBM implemented for MQSeries as it was called then. Excellent for the time but... it pre-dates JMS usage and Web Services, etc. ... .
Here is a RedBook copyright 2004, specifically with solutions for Web Services, MQ and .Net .. Sounds like what you may be looking for !

WebSphere MQ Solutions in a Microsoft .NET Environment
by Saida Davies; Michael Hamann; Sachin Kulkarni; Tony Shan; Andrew Sheppard; Ope-Oluwa Soyannwo; Jerry Stevens; Dong Kai Yu

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angka
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chevalier

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Hi,
I read this Red Book before but cant find any relevant to my design. Thanks
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George Carey
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: redbook Reply with quote

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So much for titles indicating what contents should be about ?? Go figure?
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angka
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chevalier

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Hi,

Got alot of figure but not too much wat i want. Thanks..
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