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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:04 am    Post subject: How to enforce AMS from client perspective |   |  |  
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				| The aim of AMS is to avoid MQ administrators to have access of the message content. 
 But AMS is activated at MQ server side for each required queue.
 
 At MQ client side, I have no clue if AMS is really activated or not.
 
 Therefore, once everyting is up and running with AMS, a malicious admin my just remove the security policies and get access to the message content.
 
 Questions :
 How to enforce AMS or check that AMS is still active from mq client ?
 How to restrict access to the command line setmqspl / runmqsc SET POLICY ?
 
 Thanks for you help
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How to enforce AMS from client perspective |   |  |  
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	| marc.CH wrote: |  
	| The aim of AMS is to avoid MQ administrators to have access of the message content. 
 But AMS is activated at MQ server side for each required queue.
 
 At MQ client side, I have no clue if AMS is really activated or not.
 
 Therefore, once everyting is up and running with AMS, a malicious admin my just remove the security policies and get access to the message content.
 
 Questions :
 How to enforce AMS or check that AMS is still active from mq client ?
 How to restrict access to the command line setmqspl / runmqsc SET POLICY ?
 
 Thanks for you help
 |  Hi Mark,
 How do you trust your OS admins that they are doing the right thing?
 The same way in MQ you can turn on the change control and have any before and after image of an object sent to a queue. You can then have that queue's messages processed by the auditors... but then again an admin could well turn that off...
 You just have to have a minimum of trust and faith...
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