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		  | xcuseme123 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:28 am    Post subject: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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				| We are using HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers in Performance enviornment. To support this design, we are using NFS File mount 4.1 
 We are testing two message flows(pattern-1 & 2) and common flow which does auditing which logs successful//failure in DB. All these 3 flows are deployed into individual EG’s. Below Flow design Pattern-1&2 completes in 1.5 hours in Performance environment using two brokers shares the load. Performance enviornment uses NFS file system as it uses HA clusters and Multi-instance. If we execute the same load having same data completes in 30 mins in DEV environment which local file system.
 Flow design pattern 1: Input Queue MQ-->Compute node-->SOAP Request Node --> Compute node-->Publication Node
 Flow design pattern 2: Input Queue MQ-->Compute node-->Publication Node
 
 CPU and memory consumptions are normal in DEV and Performance enviornment
 
 IIB : 10.0.0.3
 MQ: 8.0.0.4
 
 Server details
 NAME="Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server"
 CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:redhat:enterprise_linux:7.4:GA:server"
 REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT="Red Hat Enterprise Linux"
 REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION="7.4"
 
 NFS mount is set with options - rw,sync,no_wdelay,no_root_squash
 
 Can NFS file mount system affect performance for HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers/brokers ?.
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		  | Vitor | 
			  
				|  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| Can NFS file mount system affect performance for HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers/brokers ?. |  
 
 
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		  | xcuseme123 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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 Thanks for quick response.
 
 I have tried adding DefaultQBufferSize and DefaultPQBufferSize in qm.ini file. Any other options left to boost say atleast another 10% of performance please?.
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		  | Vitor | 
			  
				|  Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| Any other options left to boost say atleast another 10% of performance please?. |  
 You'll get more bang for your buck optimizing the NFS disc itself; make sure you're using any caching that's available, eliminating any network latency between the disc and the server, that sort of thing.
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		  | xcuseme123 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| Any other options left to boost say atleast another 10% of performance please?. |  
 You'll get more bang for your buck optimizing the NFS disc itself; make sure you're using any caching that's available, eliminating any network latency between the disc and the server, that sort of thing.
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		  | bruce2359 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| I have tried adding DefaultQBufferSize and DefaultPQBufferSize in qm.ini file. |  What change is performance did you measure increasing q buffer sizes?
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		  | xcuseme123 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| I have tried adding DefaultQBufferSize and DefaultPQBufferSize in qm.ini file. |  What change is performance did you measure increasing q buffer sizes?
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 I saw processing rate increased by 300 messages/min for HA cluster and Multi instance.
 
 
 Also tested the following scenarios-
 1. We are using  HA cluster and Multi instance. Removed multi instance and made broker to run standalone for two brokers. Noticed all 70000 messages processed in 30min. Broker was installed as single instance(standalone) in NFS folder.
 2. Same above load of messages takes 1hr in HA cluster and Multi instance
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| bruce2359 wrote: |  
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| I have tried adding DefaultQBufferSize and DefaultPQBufferSize in qm.ini file. |  What change is performance did you measure increasing q buffer sizes?
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 I saw processing rate increased by 300 messages/min for HA cluster and Multi instance.
 |  More precisely, please:  What was the q buffer sizes before you changed the qm.ini file?  What size did you increase each of the q buffers to?
 
 Were/are the messages all persistent?  All non persistent?  50% persistent and 50% non-persistent?
 
 Was this the ONLY change you made before you re-tested?
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		  | PeterPotkay | 
			  
				|  Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| Can NFS file mount system affect performance for HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers/brokers ?. |  
 What evidence do you have that I/O to your disk is the bottleneck?
 Please don't say that is the only difference between the systems as it is almost surely not.
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		  | xcuseme123 | 
			  
				|  Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| bruce2359 wrote: |  
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
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	| bruce2359 wrote: |  
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| I have tried adding DefaultQBufferSize and DefaultPQBufferSize in qm.ini file. |  What change is performance did you measure increasing q buffer sizes?
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 I saw processing rate increased by 300 messages/min for HA cluster and Multi instance.
 |  More precisely, please:  What was the q buffer sizes before you changed the qm.ini file?  What size did you increase each of the q buffers to?
 
 Were/are the messages all persistent?  All non persistent?  50% persistent and 50% non-persistent?
 
 Was this the ONLY change you made before you re-tested?
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 qm.ini was not having any entry for q buffer sizes. I have increased it to 100MB
 
 All messages were persistent.
 
 Yes , I have tested with above change only.
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| PeterPotkay wrote: |  
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| Can NFS file mount system affect performance for HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers/brokers ?. |  
 What evidence do you have that I/O to your disk is the bottleneck?
 Please don't say that is the only difference between the systems as it is almost surely not.
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 dont see any IO wait in nmon generated file. I see that PROC- BLOCKED graph is generated and reached upto 2.2 for 1.5 hours. Am unable to upload nmon graphs here. Please let me know how I can share it here?
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				| Design change time ? 
 perhaps use QMGR on same server as IIB ? - local connections.
 
 for HA use 2 brokers, and put the QMGRS into an MQ_CLUS , wath a gateway for message deliuvery into the solution
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: IIB and MQ - performance issue |   |  | 
		
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
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	| PeterPotkay wrote: |  
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	| xcuseme123 wrote: |  
	| Can NFS file mount system affect performance for HA clusters and Multi-instance queue managers/brokers ?. |  
 What evidence do you have that I/O to your disk is the bottleneck?
 Please don't say that is the only difference between the systems as it is almost surely not.
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 dont see any IO wait in nmon generated file. I see that PROC- BLOCKED graph is generated and reached upto 2.2 for 1.5 hours. Am unable to upload nmon graphs here. Please let me know how I can share it here?
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 Broker-1 and Broker-2 are started crashing during end-end test full load test. Earlier we have tested isolation testing with same data with peak load.
 
 Below java dump error:
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				| mqsichangeproperties <broker> -b agent -n jvmMinHeapSize -o ComIbmJVMManager -v 1073741824 
 mqsichangeproperties IDS3BRK1 -b agent -n jvmMaxHeapSize -o ComIbmJVMManager -v 3221225472
 
 we have increase broker heap size to 1gb to 3 gb. Still it didnot help and got out of memory error. Server level we have 16GB RAM , it didnot use 100% RAM. We have seen IO wait for long time , may be it was struggling to write to NFS.   Any suggestion please?..
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