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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Can't create execution group: WMB 7002 on Centos under LXC |   |  | 
		
		  | Centurion
 
 
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				| Hi folks, 
 I have a Ubuntu 10.04 host and a Centos 5 LXC container.  MQ 7013 installs and runs happily, WMB 7002 installs happily and I can create and start a broker with no errors reported anywhere.  However I can't create an execution group (tried the broker explorer first then the command line) - the logs show the eg repeatedly shutting down and eventually there's a BIP2066E message and an abend.  There's nothing helpful that I can see in the logs, service trace or abend files that gives me any inkling as to what's wrong.
 
 I suspect that this is a peculiarity related to LXC ... not as mature as OpenVZ yet ...
 
 Has anybody out there come across this and can share some experience?
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				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
		  | Grand Master
 
 
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				| can you post the header block and the first bit of the stack trace of the abend file here? 
 In a [c o d e] block, please.
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
		  | Centurion
 
 
 Joined: 27 Jun 2001Posts: 145
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				| Hi Jeff, 
 thanks for the very fast response!  There are two abend files, both small so here's the entirety:
 
 
 
   
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	| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |                                                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 | First Failure Symptom Report                                                |
 |   ========================                                                  |
 |                                                                             |
 | Proc start time (GMT) :- Thu May 12 15:29:59 2011                           |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Product Details                                                           |
 |   +++++++++++++++                                                           |
 |                                                                             |
 | Vendor                :- IBM                                                |
 | Product Name          :- WebSphere Message Broker                           |
 | Program ID            :- 5724-J05                                           |
 | Version               :- 7002                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 |   OS Information                                                            |
 |   ++++++++++++++                                                            |
 |                                                                             |
 | Operating System      :- Linux                                              |
 | Version               :- #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:25:51 UTC 2011         |
 | Release               :- 2.6.32-31-generic                                  |
 | Node Name             :- ve101                                              |
 | Machine ID            :- x86_64                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Environment                                                               |
 |   +++++++++++                                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 | Service User ID       :- UID 500                                            |
 | Executable Name       :- bipbroker                                          |
 | Process ID            :- 4809                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Deployment                                                                |
 |   ++++++++++                                                                |
 |                                                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Build Information                                                         |
 |   +++++++++++++++++                                                         |
 |                                                                             |
 | Backing build         :-                                                    |
 | Sandbox               :- /build/S700_P                                      |
 | CMVC Level            :- S700-FP02                                          |
 | Build type            :- Production                                         |
 | 64 Bit Build          :- no                                                 |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Failure Location                                                          |
 |   ++++++++++++++++                                                          |
 |                                                                             |
 | Time of Report (GMT)  :- secs since 1/1/1970: 1305200328                    |
 | Thread ID             :- 0x00000012                                         |
 |                                                                             |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 abend record for pid 4809 tid 18 time in seconds since 01/01/1970: 1305200328
 File: /build/S700_P/src/CommonServices/Unix/ImbAbend.cpp
 Line: 1044
 Function: signal received
 ---- Inserts ----
 6
 @(#) 1.33.9.3 CommonServices/Unix/ImbAbend.cpp, CommonServices, S700, S700-L100922 10/06/29 10:58:52 [9/22/10 22:00:39]
 0
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 ----------------------------- Stack dump for current thread (      18)
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	| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |                                                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 | First Failure Symptom Report                                                |
 |   ========================                                                  |
 |                                                                             |
 | Proc start time (GMT) :- Thu May 12 16:05:11 2011                           |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Product Details                                                           |
 |   +++++++++++++++                                                           |
 |                                                                             |
 | Vendor                :- IBM                                                |
 | Product Name          :- WebSphere Message Broker                           |
 | Program ID            :- 5724-J05                                           |
 | Version               :- 7002                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 |   OS Information                                                            |
 |   ++++++++++++++                                                            |
 |                                                                             |
 | Operating System      :- Linux                                              |
 | Version               :- #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:25:51 UTC 2011         |
 | Release               :- 2.6.32-31-generic                                  |
 | Node Name             :- ve101                                              |
 | Machine ID            :- x86_64                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Environment                                                               |
 |   +++++++++++                                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 | Service User ID       :- UID 500                                            |
 | Executable Name       :- bipbroker                                          |
 | Process ID            :- 5124                                               |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Deployment                                                                |
 |   ++++++++++                                                                |
 |                                                                             |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Build Information                                                         |
 |   +++++++++++++++++                                                         |
 |                                                                             |
 | Backing build         :-                                                    |
 | Sandbox               :- /build/S700_P                                      |
 | CMVC Level            :- S700-FP02                                          |
 | Build type            :- Production                                         |
 | 64 Bit Build          :- no                                                 |
 |                                                                             |
 |   Failure Location                                                          |
 |   ++++++++++++++++                                                          |
 |                                                                             |
 | Time of Report (GMT)  :- secs since 1/1/1970: 1305202818                    |
 | Thread ID             :- 0x00000012                                         |
 |                                                                             |
 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
 abend record for pid 5124 tid 18 time in seconds since 01/01/1970: 1305202818
 File: /build/S700_P/src/CommonServices/Unix/ImbAbend.cpp
 Line: 1044
 Function: signal received
 ---- Inserts ----
 6
 @(#) 1.33.9.3 CommonServices/Unix/ImbAbend.cpp, CommonServices, S700, S700-L100922 10/06/29 10:58:52 [9/22/10 22:00:39]
 0
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 ----------------------------- Stack dump for current thread (      18)
 /opt/ibm/mqsi/7.0/lib/libCommonServices.so[0xf714b383]
 /opt/ibm/mqsi/7.0/lib/libCommonServices.so(_ZN8ImbAbend23dumpCurrentStacksToFileEPKvi+0x128)[0xf6f2bce8]
 /opt/ibm/mqsi/7.0/lib/libCommonServices.so(_ZN8ImbAbend10dumpToFileEPcPKciS2_RKNS_6InsertES5_S5_S5_S5_S5_PKv+0x8ad)[0xf6f2d12d]
 /opt/ibm/mqsi/7.0/lib/libCommonServices.so(_ZN8ImbAbend22logSystemErrorInternalEPKciS1_RKNS_6InsertES4_S4_S4_S4_S4_PKvb+0x260)[0xf6f2d8c0]
 /opt/ibm/mqsi/7.0/lib/libCommonServices.so(_ZN8ImbAbend41logSystemErrorAndTerminateProcessInternalEPKciS1_RKNS_6InsertES4_S4_S4_S4_S4_PKvb+0x89)[0xf6f2e369]
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		  | mqjeff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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		  | lancelotlinc | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
		  |  Jedi Knight
 
 
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				| I have seen this before, when the broker is running under a user id other than mqbrkrs. You may like to check that your broker process is owned by mqbrkrs user. _________________
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| Well, I ran the trace as suggested but there was no output available from the execution group (mqsireadlog B101A -t -e EG01 -f -o EG01trace.xml gave "The execution group could not be found...".  I'm still poring over the service trace but no lightbulb moments yet. 
 The broker process is started by a user wmbadmin whose group membership is wmbadmin mqm mqbrkrs.  Do you think that wmbadmin's PRIMARY group should be mqbrkrs?  Lancelot, is that what you meant?
 
 I also have the debug output from creating the execution group (mqsicreateexecutiongroup B101A -e EG01 -v /var/mqsi/log/B101A_EG01.log) that I'm looking at but again, nothing stands out.  I can see that the broker didn't respond but not why.
 
 <sigh>
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		  | lancelotlinc | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
		  |  Jedi Knight
 
 
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				| Yes, I believe you will see this problem if the primary group is not mqbrkrs for the user that is running mqsistart. This is because the bar files cannot explode properly under the $MQSI_WORKPATH directory since the user's primary group is different than the file permissions in that directory. (ie. /var/mqsi/components/<brokername>) _________________
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| I blew the broker away, usermodded wmbadmin to set the primary group to mqbrkrs, shut everything down and restarted the container.  Then I started up afresh, recreated the broker, ran mqsicreateexecutiongroup, and the same thing happened again.  Damn. 
 I'm not a happy chappie, it's late and I'll have another stab tomorrow.  Thank you for your suggestions and if you can think of anything else then I'm all ears!  Well, I will be tomorrow.
 
 Cheers ...
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		  | lancelotlinc | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
		  |  Jedi Knight
 
 
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				| Please post a directory listing (ls -l) of /var/mqsi or $MQSI_WORKPATH if you differ from the default. _________________
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| This is my playpen environment, so the install used all the defaults and there is no security.  Selinux is disabled of course.  And yes, I was root when I did the install!  It's all I've ever been when installing ... 
 However I reread the install guide which is a bit ambiguous about group membership for the install, so I did the belt-and-braces thing and uninstalled, added root to mqbrkrs and mqm, reinstalled, recreated the broker, same problem.  So it wasn't that then.
 
 I have other stuff to do for a few hours, I'll return to poring over traces later ...
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		  | mqjeff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| If you can identify the UUID of the EG, you can pass that to mqsireadlog. 
 Again, however, it was the agent trace that might tell you more about why the EG is failing to start.
 
 Also double-check the file  permissions on the broker workpath - $MQSI_WORKPATH as lancelotlinc mentions - (/var/mqsi).
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		  | lancelotlinc | 
			  
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| OK gents, back on the case ... 
 I couldn't run mqsireadlog against the execution group's uuid:
 
 
 
   
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	| [wmbadmin@ve101 ~]$ mqsireadlog B101A -t -x 7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0 -f -o egtrace.xml Failed to open trace file /var/mqsi/common/log/B101A.7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0.trace.bin.0 with error No such file or directory
 BIP8041E: Unable to open the selected file '/var/mqsi/common/log/B101A.7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0.trace.bin.*'.
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 Here's the permissions and df output:
 
 
 
   
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	| [wmbadmin@ve101 ~]$ cd/var -bash: cd/var: No such file or directory
 [wmbadmin@ve101 ~]$ cd /var
 [wmbadmin@ve101 var]$ ls -al
 total 88
 drwxr-xr-x 21 root root    4096 Apr 27 13:44 .
 drwxr-xr-x 27 root root    4096 May 13 10:34 ..
 drwxr-xr-x  6 root root    4096 Jul  8  2010 cache
 -rwxrwxrwx  1 root root    2022 May 12 15:19 .com.zerog.registry.xml
 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 Jul  8  2010 db
 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 Jul  8  2010 empty
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 games
 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root    4096 Jan  6 01:31 lib
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 local
 drwxrwxr-x  6 root lock    4096 Jul  8  2010 lock
 drwxr-xr-x  5 root root    4096 May  4 04:02 log
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root      10 Sep 17  2010 mail -> spool/mail
 drwxrwsr-x 12 mqm  mqm     4096 May  4 06:23 mqm
 drwxrwxr-x 10 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 May 12 20:27 mqsi
 drwxr-x---  5 root named   4096 Jul  8  2010 named
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 nis
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 opt
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 preserve
 drwxr-xr-x 13 root root    4096 May 13 10:37 run
 drwxr-xr-x  9 root root    4096 Jul  8  2010 spool
 drwxrwxrwt  2 root root    4096 May 12 13:19 tmp
 drwxr-xr-x  6 root root    4096 Jul  8  2010 www
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 Jan 27  2010 yp
 [wmbadmin@ve101 var]$ cd mqsi
 [wmbadmin@ve101 mqsi]$ ls -al
 total 44
 drwxrwxr-x 10 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 May 12 20:27 .
 drwxr-xr-x 21 root root    4096 Apr 27 13:44 ..
 drwxrwxr-x  7 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 Mar 16 14:42 common
 drwxrwsr-x  3 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 May 12 20:26 components
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root      26 May 12 15:08 install.properties
 drwxrwxrw-  2 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 May 12 20:45 log
 drwxrwxr-x  2 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 Mar 16 14:42 odbc
 drwxrws---  3 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 May 12 20:26 registry
 drwxrwxr-x  2 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 Mar 16 14:42 shared-classes
 drwxrwxr-x  3 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 Mar 16 14:42 XML
 drwxrwxr-x  3 mqm  mqbrkrs 4096 Mar 16 14:42 XSL
 [wmbadmin@ve101 mqsi]$ df -h
 Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 rootfs                440G   93G  326G  23% /
 /dev/disk/by-uuid/d2b48586-669c-4a7b-bf49-dba84098aea3
 440G   93G  326G  23% /
 /dev/disk/by-uuid/d2b48586-669c-4a7b-bf49-dba84098aea3
 440G   93G  326G  23% /library
 [wmbadmin@ve101 mqsi]$
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 I'll return to studying the trace logs.
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		  | mqjeff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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	| Cliff wrote: |  
	| OK gents, back on the case ... 
 I couldn't run mqsireadlog against the execution group's uuid:
 
 
 
   
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	| [wmbadmin@ve101 ~]$ mqsireadlog B101A -t -x 7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0 -f -o egtrace.xml Failed to open trace file /var/mqsi/common/log/B101A.7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0.trace.bin.0 with error No such file or directory
 BIP8041E: Unable to open the selected file '/var/mqsi/common/log/B101A.7bcc7e4-2f01-0000-0080-848d390601c0.trace.bin.*'.
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 Okay then, didn't even get that far.
 
 Nothing in the agent trace file?
 
 can we see ls -al /var/mqsi/common/log?
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		  | Cliff | 
			  
				|  Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: |   |  | 
		
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				| I'm still looking at the agent traces.  The startup trace doesn't refer to the eg except for one line where a 'stop execution group' message is retrieved.  The regular service trace is large and taking some time to digest! 
 Here's the content of /var/mqsi/common/log:
 
 
 
   
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	| [wmbadmin@ve101 log]$ ls -al total 4604
 drwxrwsrwx 2 mqm      mqbrkrs    4096 May 12 20:26 .
 drwxrwxr-x 7 mqm      mqbrkrs    4096 Mar 16 14:42 ..
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs 1572506 May 12 19:24 B101A.agent.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs 1572559 May 12 19:25 B101A.agent.trace.bin.1
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs   32336 May 12 19:25 B101A.agent.trace.bin.2
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:36 B101A.agent.trace.bin.3
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs    1400 May 12 16:18 B101A.agent.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs    1400 May 12 19:22 B101A.agent.userTrace.bin.1
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:36 B101A.agent.userTrace.bin.2
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs  818799 May 12 16:20 B101A.httplistener.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs  586882 May 12 19:24 B101A.httplistener.trace.bin.1
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs   84136 May 12 19:24 B101A.httplistener.trace.bin.2
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:36 B101A.httplistener.trace.bin.3
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:36 B101A.httplistener.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.mqsichangebroker.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.mqsichangebroker.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 16:24 B101A.mqsichangetrace.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 16:24 B101A.mqsichangetrace.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:26 B101A.mqsicreatebroker.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:26 B101A.mqsicreatebroker.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:24 B101A.mqsideletebroker.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:24 B101A.mqsideletebroker.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:29 B101A.mqsilist.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:29 B101A.mqsilist.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 13 10:43 B101A.mqsireadlog.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 13 10:43 B101A.mqsireadlog.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 19:33 B101A.mqsiservice.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 19:33 B101A.mqsiservice.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.mqsistart.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.mqsistart.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:52 B101A.mqsistop.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:52 B101A.mqsistop.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs   24387 May 12 19:25 B101A.service.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.service.trace.bin.1
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:27 B101A.service.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:26 utility.mqsichangebroker.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 20:26 utility.mqsichangebroker.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 19:31 utility.mqsiformatlog.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 19:31 utility.mqsiformatlog.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 15:50 utility.mqsilist.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 15:50 utility.mqsilist.userTrace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 17:17 utility.mqsiservice.trace.bin.0
 -rw-rw---- 1 wmbadmin mqbrkrs       0 May 12 17:17 utility.mqsiservice.userTrace.bin.0
 [wmbadmin@ve101 log]$
 
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 Thanks again for your help.  Bit of a head scratcher this one eh?
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