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				 Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject: Where can I download the pdf document of WMB V7.0 | 
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		   Disciple
 
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				| I checked the IBM website, seems it is not available. | 
			   
			 
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				If I recall what one of the Hursley guys who post here said when this was asked before,
 
"there isn't going to be any PDF docs for V7.0".
 
 
Sigh. 
 
Personally, I find the info centre next to usless unless I know where I am going.
 
For example, I wanted to check the options to the PROPAGATE ESQL Statement.
 
On the otherhand going round and round when trying to get to the all important desctiption & example of a Monitoring Message is very frustrating. It is there but it seems to take far too many screens to find it.
 
 
As an 'old timer' (as my grey hair will testify) I prefer my docs in 'book/pdf form'. 
 
 
Back to your question, I think you are going to be out of luck. _________________ WMQ User since 1999
 
MQSI/WBI/WMB/'Thingy' User since 2002
 
Linux user since 1995
 
 
 
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				There has been much discussion here about InfoCenter vs. .pdf.
 
 
I find the InfoCenter rather tedious, and prefer a book or book-like read. _________________ I like deadlines. I like to wave as they pass by.
 
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				There is no PDF version of the InfoCenter currently available.
 
 
As an old timer, I find it very tedious to have to manually change pages to go from one topic to another, and to have to run repeated "Find next" to go to the actual information I'm looking for, and much prefer a highly indexed and highly searchable InfoCenter format. | 
			   
			 
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				| In addition, I know for a fact that at least smdavies99 is clever enough to write a script that will walk the InfoCenter and produce a PDF. | 
			   
			 
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	| In addition, I know for a fact that at least smdavies99 is clever enough to write a script that will walk the InfoCenter and produce a PDF. | 
   
 
 
 
Hmmm. I don't know if that is a challenge or not? 
 
Nope. 
 
How would I ever get it to handle the infinite loops & content free pages?
 
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	| In addition, I know for a fact that at least smdavies99 is clever enough to write a script that will walk the InfoCenter and produce a PDF. | 
   
 
 
 
Hmmm. I don't know if that is a challenge or not?  | 
   
 
 
   
 
   
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	Nope. 
 
How would I ever get it to handle the infinite loops & content free pages?
 
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You should be able to retrieve the table of contents page and walk the links in that.  No looping.  I mean the left hand frame. 
 
 
As for 'content free pages' - there are already a ton of those in the PDFs, so why skip them? | 
			   
			 
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	There is no PDF version of the InfoCenter currently available.
 
 
As an old timer, I find it very tedious to have to manually change pages to go from one topic to another, and to have to run repeated "Find next" to go to the actual information I'm looking for, and much prefer a highly indexed and highly searchable InfoCenter format. | 
   
 
 
 
At the risk of offending my best support resources, I gagged at that comment. 
 
 
The InfoCentre is one of those things that IBM has done too well. It is over-engineered and there is no way to search it. If you try to use Google lately on InfoCentre pages, you usually get a hit and when you click on the link from the Google search page, you are brought to [A] the title page of InfoCentre (ie. not the page you wanted) or [B] the "oops we cannot find the page you are looking for".
 
 
Reminds me of how useless Lotus Notes search function is. _________________ http://leanpub.com/IIB_Tips_and_Tricks
 
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	| It is over-engineered and there is no way to search it. | 
   
 
 
 
Aside from the search function built into the InfoCentre of course, which does quite a nice job.    _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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				No, Sir Vitor, it does not. I beg your pardon sir.
 
 
Search on MQGet and RFH2. You find nothing.
 
 
   
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Using Google and same terms, you get 92 hits.
 
 
Infocentre is as useless as Lotus Notes.
 
 
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	| Search on MQGet and RFH2. You find nothing. | 
   
 
 
 
No, I get a long list of stuff starting with (unsurprisingly enough) the link for theMQGet node's page. 
 
 
   
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  MQGet node  
 
 MQGet node Use the MQGet node to receive messages from clients that connect to the broker by using the WebSphere® MQ Enterprise Transport , and the MQI and AMI application programming interface  
 
  Using MQGet nodes  
 
 Using MQGet nodes The MQGet node processes messages in a particular way, and you can use it in request-response message flows. How the MQGet node processes messages A request-response scenario t  
 
  MQGet node message tree examples  
 
 MQGet node message tree examples The MQGet node generates message trees based on the input message assembly that it receives, and the options that you have set on the node properties. The messag  
 
  How the MQGet node processes messages  
 
 How the MQGet node processes messages The MQGet node processes each message that it receives. This topic contains the following sections: Propagating the message Constructing OutputLocalEnvironm  
 
  A request-response scenario that uses an MQGet node  
 
 A request-response scenario that uses an MQGet node Read about a scenario in which an MQGet node is used in a request-response flow, and how the node processes the input messages to construct t  
 
  Extending the Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample  
 
 You can extend the sample to learn more about browsing WebSphere MQ queues. Use the following instructions to find out how you can extend the sample  
 
  Extending the Coordinated Request Reply sample  
 
 When the ReplyToQ and ReplyToQmgr values of the original request message are saved in a WebSphere MQ message for later retrieval it is done by saving  
 
  Processing WebSphere MQ messages  
 
 Processing WebSphere MQ messages WebSphere® Message Broker provides a number of nodes for handling messages received from or sent to WebSphere MQ applications. WebSphere Message Broker provides  
 
  Extending the Data Warehouse sample  
 
 The Data Warehouse sample can be extended, or used in other message flows in its existing form. Although the version of the sample that is provided performs no  
 
  Broker implements existing Web service interface  
 
 In this scenario, the broker implements an existing Web service interface. The WSDL for the Web service already exists, and is imported to create a m  
 
  Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample  
 
 The Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample demonstrates how a message flow can browse messages that are on a queue, and retrieve the data from these messages without  
 
  Coordinated Request Reply sample  
 
 The Coordinated Request Reply sample is a message flow sample application based on the scenario of two applications with different message formats which communicate  
 
  About the Coordinated Request Reply sample  
 
 The Coordinated Request Reply sample is a message flow sample application based on the scenario of a contemporary and established application communicatin  
 
  MQInput node  
 
 MQInput node Use the MQInput node to receive messages from clients that connect to the broker by using the WebSphere® MQ Enterprise Transport , and that use the MQI and AMI application programm  
 
  Designing the WebSphere MQ infrastructure  
 
 Designing the WebSphere MQ infrastructure You must create and manage the WebSphere® MQ resources that are required to support your brokers, and the applications that connect to them to supply o  
 
  Running the Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample  
 
 When you import the sample you might receive warnings in the Toolkit about the mandatory filter pattern, and the staff schema element. These warnings  
 
  About the Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample  
 
 The Browsing WebSphere MQ Queues sample demonstrates how a message flow can browse messages that are on a queue, and retrieve the data from these message  
 
  Node types  
 
 Use the cciGetNodeType function to find out the node type of any node. Node Node Type WebSphere® MQ MQInput ComIbmMQInputNode MQOutput ComIbmMQOutputNode MQReply ComIbmMQOutputNode MQGet  
 
  Designing a message flow  
 
 A message flow can perform a wide range of operations, depending on your business and operational requirements. For best performance and capability, you must design it to in  
 
  Building the Web Services using HTTP nodes sample  
 
 The Web Services using HTTP nodes sample has two parts: A Web Service Host sample A Web Service Client sample Building the Web Service Host sample All  
 
  Cleanup tasks  
 
 Before you remove the Error Handler sample from the broker, you must complete the following tasks: Delete the ErrorHandler execution group: In the WebSphere Message Broker Toolkit, righ  
 
  Built-in nodes  
 
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  Configuring message flows for data conversion  
 
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  New in Version 6.1  
 
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  Proxy servlet configuration parameters  
 
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  WebSphere MQ Enterprise Transport  
 
 WebSphere MQ Enterprise Transport WebSphere® MQ Enterprise Transport is a service that connects applications to messaging middleware. The WebSphere MQ Enterprise Transport is the transport use  
 
  Restrictions that apply in each operation mode  
 
 Restrictions that apply in each operation mode The operation mode in which your broker is working defines how many execution groups and message flows you can use, and which nodes are available.  
 
  MIME parser use and restrictions  
 
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  Validation properties  
 
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  User trace entries for message flow accounting and statistics data  
 
 User trace entries for message flow accounting and statistics data Certain information is written to the user trace log for message flow accounting and statistics data. The data records are identifi  
 
  Validating messages  
 
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  Detection of duplicate messages  
 
 Included in the sample is a subflow to assist in detecting any duplicate messages. This subflow facilitates the identification, and subsequent removal, of a duplica  
 
  About the TCPIP Handshake sample  
 
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  Extending the capability of a C input node  
 
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  XML publication for message flow accounting and statistics data  
 
 XML publication for message flow accounting and statistics data Certain information is written to the XML publication for message flow accounting and statistics data. The data is created in the fo  
 
  Handling MQInput errors  
 
 The MQInput node takes certain actions when handling errors with persistent and transactional messages. The node attempts retry processing when a transactional message is  
 
  About the Error Handler sample  
 
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  Configurable properties  
 
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  z/OS SMF records for message flow accounting and statistics data  
 
 z/OS SMF records for message flow accounting and statistics data Certain information is written to z/OS® SMF records for message flow accounting and statistics data. The data records are type 117  
 
  MQReply node  
 
 MQReply node Use the MQReply node to send a response to the originator of the input message. This topic contains the following sections: Purpose Using this node in a message flow Configuring the  
 
  MQOutput node  
 
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  Samples  
 
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  Class com.ibm.broker.config.proxy.MessageFlowProxy  
 
 Class Hierarchy All Classes All Fields and Methods Class com.ibm.broker.config.proxy.MessageFlowProxy java.lang.Object com.ibm.broker.config.proxy.AdministeredObject com.ib...  
 
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 Special characters Numerics A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Z Special characters @MessageBrokerCopyTransform @MessageBrokerLocalEnvironmentTransform @MessageBrokerRouter @Message  
 
  BIP2000-2999: Runtime components - Broker  
 
 BIP2001 The WebSphere Message Broker service has started at version <insert_2>; process ID <insert_1>. Severity 0 : Information Explanation The WebSphere Message Broker ser...  
 
  Class com.ibm.broker.config.proxy.ExecutionGroupProxy  
 
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  BIP4000-4999: Runtime components - Built-in nodes  
 
 BIP4001 Syntax error in SQL statements in node <insert_1>. Severity 20 : Error Explanation The configuration failed due to errors in the SQL statement text. See the followi...  
 
  Class com.ibm.broker.config.proxy.BrokerProxy  
 
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  BIP3000-3999: Runtime components - Built-in nodes  
 
 BIP3001 Exception thrown by throw node <insert_2>; text is <insert_1>. Severity 0 : Information Explanation The throw node <insert_2> has received a message and thus has th...  
 
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Repeating the experiment with 'RFH2' I again get a page of stuff starting with "Accessing the MQRFH2 header by using a Java Compute Node".
 
 
   
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  Accessing the MQRFH2 header by using a JavaCompute node  
 
 Accessing the MQRFH2 header by using a JavaCompute node You can use a JavaCompute node to add an MQRFH2 header to an outgoing message. When you construct MQRFH2 headers in a JavaCompute node,  
 
  Simplified JMS message representation  
 
 The JMSInput node receives an input message as a Javaâ„¢ object, and not as a bit stream wire format (as is the case with an MQInput node). The message does  
 
  Class com.ibm.broker.plugin.MbRFH2C  
 
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  Develop a message flow and message model for dealing with repeating elements  
 
 Develop a message flow and message model for dealing with repeating elements Before you start Perform the steps in the following topics: Develop a message flow and message model for simple and comp  
 
  Develop a message flow and message model for a target-only element  
 
 Develop a message flow and message model for a target-only element Before you start Perform the steps in the following topic: Develop a message flow and message model for simple a nd complex element  
 
  Develop a message flow and message model for simple and complex element mapping  
 
 Develop a message flow and message model for simple and complex element mapping This is the first stage of the scenario to perform simple message enrichment . This topic demonstrates how to develo  
 
  Package com.ibm.broker.plugin  
 
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  WebSphere MQ migmbbrk command  
 
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				(This is in no way a defence or a jibe at the InfoCenter and it's relative merits against the pdf format, a subject adequately discussed earlier. Just a refutation of the claim the InfoCenter is not searchable).
 
 
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				So if I go here, and I put into the "Search" box at the top left of the page, the text "mqget rfh2", then I get 
   
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which are all links to different pages in the InfoCenter.
 
 
This is what I'm talking about when I say 'searchable', and I am *not* talking about anything regarding the search button at the top RIGHT of www.ibm.com.
 
 
The v6 InfoCenter does return only one result for 'mqget rhf2', and it's not a useful result.  
 
 
I'm happy to rescind my "highly searchable", but I still significantly prefer a list of search results rather than having to continually "find next".  And I just don't find a book format to be as useful on a day to day basis. | 
			   
			 
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But that's a contrived example. Those 2 terms are unrelated in WMB. You use an MQGet node for a given purpose & the presence (or not) of an RFH2 in the message is irrelevant. Likewise when manipulating an RFH2 it matters not at all if it was obtained from an MQGet, an MQInput or a Compute node further up the flow. 
 
 
[quote="lancelotlinc"]By contrast, check this PDF out:
 
 
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/integration/wbibrokers/docs/V6.1/messagebroker_Message_Flows.pdf
 
 
The contrast is striking. Entering "MQGet RFH2" into the search box yields a "no matches found".    
 
 
(Reader 9, running on XP).
 
 
   
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You're welcome to your opinion, IIRC you expressed it in the previous discussion & as I said we're not going there again. _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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