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		  | paulfitz | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply To Q Names in a non clustered environment | 
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		   Newbie
 
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				I have picked up the support of an app as it moves into a production testing environment and have a question about reply to q names. In the dev test environments the code only has to a reply to a local queue definition and gets the q name to reply to from the reply to field in the request header and this works fine. However in production the reply q will actually be a remote q (this is in a non clustered environment). When we recieve the message in this environment the q name is as the requester see's it eg. BobsQ. I obviously do not have a BobsQ in my set up, I have my own remote q definition eg. PaulRemoteQ, that has in its properties a reference to BobsQ. When trying to access BobsQ I get a failure that it can't find that q (to prove that everything else works I have tested with a hard coded reference to PaulRemoteQ and this works). Does this method of keeping the reply to q in the header work in a non clustered environment (a colleague with more MQ experience than myself has only ever seen this method in clustered environments)? or is the api for accessing the q being used incorrectly (using JMS from Java and doing an QueueManager.accessQueue(), is there a method that recognises that I am after a remote q and not its name in this environment but as defined in its RName property)?
 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
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		  | jefflowrey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:38 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Grand Poobah
 
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				It works fine if your remote queue name is the same as the local queue name on the other end. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. | 
			   
			 
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		  | bbburson | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: Naming conventions | 
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		   Partisan
 
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				| Naming conventions are wonderful things.  At our site we always name remote queues the same as the target local queue; we always name transmit queues the same at the target queue manager; we always name sender/receiver channels <FromQMgr>.<ToQMgr>.  Saves a lot of confusion and it makes it easy for a new person to figure out what connects to what and where to look for messages. | 
			   
			 
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		  | jefflowrey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Naming conventions | 
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		   Grand Poobah
 
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I agree.  
 
 
I keep waiting for one of the management tools to build in functions to allow you to support and audit naming standards compliance. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. | 
			   
			 
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		  | Heinz57 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Apprentice
 
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				| We usually use qalias in our local qmgr that resolves to the remote q. You could specify a qalias of Bobsq that points to Paulsremoteq that poits to Bobsq on another qmgr...   Just our way of using reply to's when they're not in the cluster... | 
			   
			 
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		  | tkane | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Voyager
 
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				In a distributed queuing application where an applciation sends a request message and properly fills in the md.ReplyToQ and md.ReplyToQMgr fields in the input message descriptor then a well behaved server applciation that reads these and honors them can get back to the original reply to queue without a qremote.  That is if you name your transmit queues the same as your queue manager.
 
 
There is a sample on Unix called amqsreq0.c that shows how to do the request and look for a reply.
 
Also a sample triggered echo program called amqsecha.c
 
 
These can be run with a pair of channels and one queue remote that points to the queue that the echo program triggers on.
 
 
Good Luck
 
 
Tom | 
			   
			 
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