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| sebastianhirt |
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Yatiri
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I know we are about 80 Million. But my brain is working in MQRC2085 mode this morning that's why I was calculating 4 tims around 80 is aehhmm 250. 
I hate monday mornings!
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Ok I'll take that, 82 million and what like eleven people killed with firearms or some such. How many homicides/year?
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes well I may have been wrong about the population of Germany. Looking at it on the map I have to wonder how they could actually fit 82 million people in a country that is smaller than the state of Florida but if you have data to back it up fine. Germany must be a very crouded very peaceful place. After all they did go out of their way to make it that way.
Indeed not so long ago a certain German wanted to make all of Europe a peaceful nation he started by slaughtering a few hundred thousand people and before it was done millions died. I'm not sure that Germany is quite exactly the shinning example you may be looking for.
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| sebastianhirt |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| sebastianhirt |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Yes well I may have been wrong about the population of Germany. Looking at it on the map I have to wonder how they could actually fit 82 million people in a country that is smaller than the state of Florida but if you have data to back it up fine. Germany must be a very crouded very peaceful place. After all they did go out of their way to make it that way.
Indeed not so long ago a certain German wanted to make all of Europe a peaceful nation he started by slaughtering a few hundred thousand people and before it was done millions died. I'm not sure that Germany is quite exactly the shinning example you may be looking for. |
Oh come on Chris. Don't start this Hitler discussion. I am 21. My dad is 48 and soldier. Neither him nor myself are responsible for WW2 nor for WW1. Stalin killed at least 5 times as much people as Hitler. Does this make the Russians guilty? The US was kepping africans as slaves. Does this make you guilty? My opinion no.
But I personaly think It is a huge pile of steaming bull shit to argument with this facts.
And what about the 2 biggest terorist acts ever. I am talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Who was that? The americans? I ask you. How can the americans judge people who crashed airplanes in the twin towers, but think dropping nucleous bombs over japan is fun? Either of those two acts is equally sick! |
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| im in Australia so there is no semi autos and pump shotguns. we use, bolt action shotguns, lever shotguns and rifles, pump rifles, strait pull bolt actions, and there is one rifle make that works by sliding the pistol grip forward and back to reload it. it sucks .... fight for your autos with your life, when they are crushed thats it. |
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes well I may have been wrong about the population of Germany. Looking at it on the map I have to wonder how they could actually fit 82 million people in a country that is smaller than the state of Florida but if you have data to back it up fine. Germany must be a very crouded very peaceful place. After all they did go out of their way to make it that way.
Indeed not so long ago a certain German wanted to make all of Europe a peaceful nation he started by slaughtering a few hundred thousand people and before it was done millions died. I'm not sure that Germany is quite exactly the shinning example you may be looking for. |
Oh come on Chris. Don't start this Hitler discussion. I am 21. My dad is 48 and soldier. Neither him nor myself are responsible for WW2 nor for WW1. Stalin killed at least 5 times as much people as Hitler. Does this make the Russians guilty? The US was kepping africans as slaves. Does this make you guilty? My opinion no.
But I personaly think It is a huge pile of steaming bull shit to argument with this facts.
And what about the 2 biggest terorist acts ever. I am talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Who was that? The americans? I ask you. How can the americans judge people who crashed airplanes in the twin towers, but think dropping nucleous bombs over japan is fun? Either of those two acts is equally sick! |
Oranges and Apples Sebastian, WWII was ugly but the Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not terrorist attacks. America was faced with the option of invading Japan with traditional forces in a long drawn out invasion that would no doubt have been repelled by devoted Japanese forces or we nuke them.
Think about this for a second or so, if the Russia at the time had had nuclear technology or if Germany had nuclear technology where would the world be now?
If US forces had been forced to invade Japan the losses of US troops and Japanese civilians would have been equal if not greater than the deaths and suffering of the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Need I remind you that the US was staying out of the WWII conflict untill Japan sucker punched us at Pearl Harbor.
You people are all about slamming the USA and pointing out every little flaw but you never stop to think. What would it be like if America collapsed instead of the USSR. What if Germany and Japan had won WWII?
OH lets just let China take over the whole fucking world. How'd that be?
Even better how bout we all convert to the muslim faith and force our women to wear Berka's. Then we can beat them when a breeze blows their berka up showing their ankle.
What fun it would be to stone a blasphemer. I can't wait to cut the head off an infidel.
Oh yeah, America is evuuuuuul.
If communism if so great go live in a communist country.
If you think for a minute that the muslim extemist terrorist are in some way justified in their attacks on civilians you are a idiot!
If you for a moment think that these racist muslim activist are some how fighting to preserver anything that resembles freedom you are a moron.
Tell me sebastian, when was the last time an American Citizen walked into a muslim cafe and blew him self up with the intent of killing a bunch of muslim civilians?
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| sebastianhirt |
| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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OK lets try to not let this go out of hand.
I abominate what those extremists are doing. You are right when you say that americans don't blow muslims away. Killing is never justified. This does not only apply for civilists.
I am lucky that we did not win those world wars. If that happened the world would be into deep shit now. But at the end no war has a winner! Hitlers idea's are and were completely sick.
It was for sure good that the UDSSR collapsed, not the USA.
Japan should have not attacked perl habour. This was discusting and guttless.
But I do think that those 2 nukes are terroristic acts (you don't need to agree with me. I don't want to pursuade you. But this is my opinion. And I want you to respect it!)
My goal is not to slamm or disshonor the US or its citizens. But do I need to find everything good you folks are doing?
It was you starting to blame us Germans for what Hitler did. Not the other way round.
But the world seems to forget that Germany is not the only country in the world with a dark history. But history is past and we should focus to make the future better.
I have to admit that I was a bit emmotional when I was reading this 'may I remind you, you killed 6 mio jews' post. This is sort of hurting and a little bit ignorant to me. Remember how you felt when I said dropping nukes is a terrorists act. None of us knows what happened when they didn't drop them. So lets not speculate too much about it, as we will never know it anyway.
My sincere appologies if I offended you or anybody else. But I don't want to be made responsible, what happened 3 generations before when I was not even born. |
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