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				 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:18 am    Post subject: What happens to a auto-defined clussdr chl? | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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				Hello,
 
 
I'm playing with MQ clusters with 2 qmgrs. 
 
I created CLUSRCVR on both qmgrs. And then created a CLUSSDR on 1st qmgr. And I noticed a auto-defined CLUSSDR on the 2nd qmgr too. I know this is how MQ clusters work, but what happens to this auto defined CLUSSDR if i define another CLUSSDR manually. 
 
I did try it and noticed only 1 CLUSDR after manually defining it.
 
My question is, how to tell the diff b/w a manually defined CLUSSDR and auto-defined CLUSSDR? 
 
How do I know if the displayed CLUSSDR is auto-defined instance or the one that I manually defined? 
 
 
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		  | exerk | 
		  
		    
			  
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				Read THIS for a very detailed explanation of how to determine the difference... _________________ It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. | 
			   
			 
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		  | mvic | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: What happens to a auto-defined clussdr chl? | 
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		    Jedi
 
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		  | Vitor | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: What happens to a auto-defined clussdr chl? | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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Hi - still [url=http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=75315&highlight=[/url] working through the MQ docs I see. 
 
 
   
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	| I created CLUSRCVR on both qmgrs. And then created a CLUSSDR on 1st qmgr. And I noticed a auto-defined CLUSSDR on the 2nd qmgr too. I know this is how MQ clusters work, but what happens to this auto defined CLUSSDR if i define another CLUSSDR manually.  | 
   
 
 
 
If it's to the other FR in the cluster, it probably disappears.
 
 
   
	| cra1gl1 wrote: | 
   
  
	| I did try it and noticed only 1 CLUSDR after manually defining it. | 
   
 
 
 
Told you.
 
 
   
	| cra1gl1 wrote: | 
   
  
	| My question is, how to tell the diff b/w a manually defined CLUSSDR and auto-defined CLUSSDR?  | 
   
 
 
 
Each queue manager in a cluster should have a manually defined CLUSSDR. I think you're asking how you tell if the channel has been automatically defined, and those channels have a different type that you won't see in a cluster with only 2 queue managers (which must of course both be FRs.
 
 
   
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	| How do I know if the displayed CLUSSDR is auto-defined instance or the one that I manually defined?  | 
   
 
 
 
From the type that's being displayed. _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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		  | cra1gl1 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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				Thanks for your replies. 
 
 
While verifying the cluster objects, i noticed that all the channels(from dis chs(*) conname where(cluster eq cluster1) ) have the ip address in CONNAME field. but I defined all the manual channels with FQDN. (CONNAME('FQDN(PORT)')). 
 
 
Question is, does the cluster automatically update this ip addresses on the auto-defined chls when any of the qmgr's IP address changes(but the hostname remains same). | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:38 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Poobah
 
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	| cra1gl1 wrote: | 
   
  
	i noticed that all the channels(from dis chs(*) conname where(cluster eq cluster1) ) have the ip address in CONNAME field. but I defined all the manual channels with FQDN. (CONNAME('FQDN(PORT)')). 
 
 
Question is, does the cluster automatically update this ip addresses on the auto-defined chls when any of the qmgr's IP address changes(but the hostname remains same). | 
   
 
 
This is the usual behavior of channels (cluster and non-cluster) at channel attach time - if you don't specify an ipaddress in the CONNAME field, MQ software will attempt to resolve the name you do specify. _________________ I like deadlines. I like to wave as they pass by.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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	| cra1gl1 wrote: | 
   
  
	i noticed that all the channels(from dis chs(*) conname where(cluster eq cluster1) ) have the ip address in CONNAME field. but I defined all the manual channels with FQDN. (CONNAME('FQDN(PORT)')). 
 
 
Question is, does the cluster automatically update this ip addresses on the auto-defined chls when any of the qmgr's IP address changes(but the hostname remains same). | 
   
 
 
This is the usual behavior of channels (cluster and non-cluster) at channel attach time - if you don't specify an ipaddress in the CONNAME field, MQ software will attempt to resolve the name you do specify. | 
   
 
 
 
cool, thank you | 
			   
			 
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