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mqjeff
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Base wrote:
kimbert wrote:
Does it work if you replace the FileInput node with an MQInput node?


I will try it - BTW: Please check your PMs


You shouldn't expect free, private assistance from any poster here. Especially one as busy as kimbert is these days.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Finally I get it. It was my fault. I forgot to define the destiny for the subscription of the topic.

But I have another question - The events which are produced by the flow are not equal to IBMs common base events. So the CBE-Browser doesn't show them. Is there something available to do this automatically (transformation) or do I have to transform all Messages by my own?

mqjeff wrote:
Base wrote:
kimbert wrote:
Does it work if you replace the FileInput node with an MQInput node?


I will try it - BTW: Please check your PMs


You shouldn't expect free, private assistance from any poster here. Especially one as busy as kimbert is these days.


Yes I know - but my PM wasn't for private help - business-related
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kimbert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The MDB takes the message broker ( proprietary format ) events and does two things to them
- wraps them in a default CBE wrapper
- submits them to CEI

So the CBE events should be visible in your CBE browser.
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elvis_gn
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi kimbert,

Maybe I should have asked this by starting another post, but since we are on the topic of CEI in Broker...I wanted to know if it was possible OR will be possible in the future to create events on custom topics...

Something like, I am generating 10 events all over the flow,but
--> only 3 are of business importance so should be identified by 1 topic (domain/.../FlowName/BIEvent/...)
--> 5 (including the above 3 perhaps) are audit worthy, so (domain/../FlowName/Audit/...)
--> All 10 are logging events, thus(domain/.../FlowName/Logging/...)

Therefore, I was thinking if this was available or in the future the tool will let me make custom topics too...what do you think ?

And sorry was hijacking the topic

Regards.
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Base
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kimbert wrote:
The MDB takes the message broker ( proprietary format ) events and does two things to them
- wraps them in a default CBE wrapper
- submits them to CEI

So the CBE events should be visible in your CBE browser.


Hm... I have two MDBs

1.one is provided by the supportpac (IA9V) and will collect all events which are generated by the java compute from the supportpac. If I collect the events emitted by the nodes in the flow and passes them to the queue where this MDB is listening then these events aren't shown in the CBE Browser because they don't have the right pattern.

2.another MDB is provided by the monitor sample in the toolkit. How does this MDB know from which topic from which broker it should collect the events? I tried to deploy the EAR of the sample top the AppServ but nothing happens.

Actually I don't have installed the business monitor. I just want to collect the events from the topic and passes them to CEI and show them with the help of CBE-Browser (which is part of the process Server).
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kimbert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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re 1:
So you are taking events generated in the *new* WMB custom format, and sending them to an MDB designed for IA9V. What made you think that this approach would work?

re 2:
Configuration of the MDB is described in the documentation for the monitoring sample.
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kimbert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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elvis: We did wonder about allowing the topic to be configurable, and we decided to keep things simple for this release. If users keep asking for it, that could change.
I know it's a hassle, but the most effective way to ask is by raising a formal requirement.
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Base
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok it is working now. But one little problem remains. I cannot use the JMS Topic Connection Factory of the AppServ. It says that the subscription service is not available. Instead I am passing my events from the topic to q queue and afterwords they are collected with the help of a queue connection factory and put into CEI. This is working right now with the little workaround.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there a way of controlling the infomation which are added by thy MDB? For exmaple - event Name, Priority, Serevity, sumbcomponent, category etc - ATM the MDB writes default values into these fields. Is it possible to define the values for this field right into the flow? As far as I see the events generated by the Broker do not have these fileds.
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kimbert
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, there is no way to control those fields. The CBE wrapper will always have default values in all of its fields.
There should be sufficient infomation in the WMB event to create your monitor model. However, if you have a real requirement for setting CBE fields then please let us know.
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Base
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there a way of transaction handling?

eg a flow throws an exception and a rollback of all processed data from the WMB nodes are done - what happens with the events already generated? I think they are still there? Do I have to remove them by some own logic or is there something provided?
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kimbert
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Firstly, we are aware that some customers will want the events linked to the main flow's unit of work (and some customers will not). This is something that we would like to address in a future release or fix pack.

For v6.1.0.3, each event is issued out of syncpoint, and will arrive at the monitoring application even if the flow's unit of work gets rolled back. If you need to detect error situations, you should add events to the failure path of your message flow, and set up your monitoring application to detect and respond to these failure events.
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