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		  | Bharat_123 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Writing & Calling diff applications in WMB | 
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		   Acolyte
 
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				Hello Team
 
 
I have a typical synario where i need to put and get the messages from diff applications.
 
 
My question here is do i need to do all in a single .msg flow or diff .msgflow files. 
 
 
MQinput -->compute --> MQoutput to TX
 
 
MQ get from TX -- > compu ----> put to mainframe MQ outputQ
 
 
MQget from Mainframe --> comp ---> put to TX
 
 
get from tx ---> comp --> put to client/ customer MQout
 
 
 
In the above scenario what do i have to do? and also i need to match the msg id for all the scenario. 
 
 
When i do the above scenario first MQput to TX is working and flow is terminating. to continue the flow what do i have to do?
 
 
do i have to create different .msgflows and in a single .msgflow works fine.
 
 
Please suggest or guide me
 
 
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		  | Vitor | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: Writing & Calling diff applications in WMB | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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	| Bharat_123 wrote: | 
   
  
	| My question here is do i need to do all in a single .msg flow or diff .msgflow files.  | 
   
 
 
 
Whatever works best for your design? I'd say the key question is where you have the UOW boundaries.
 
 
   
	| Bharat_123 wrote: | 
   
  
	| In the above scenario what do i have to do? | 
   
 
 
 
That's a question I'd submit an invoice to answer!    
 
 
   
	| Bharat_123 wrote: | 
   
  
	|  and also i need to match the msg id for all the scenario.  | 
   
 
 
 
Msg id or correl id? Either could be right, but think about it in the context of your design.
 
 
   
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	| When i do the above scenario first MQput to TX is working and flow is terminating. to continue the flow what do i have to do? | 
   
 
 
 
What you'd normally do if a flow terminates.
 
 
   
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	| do i have to create different .msgflows and in a single .msgflow works fine. | 
   
 
 
 
See above. I'd suspect you need different flows, but it really depends on the details of your design. _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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		  | kamy | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Question -- when you say TX do you mean WTX? | 
			   
			 
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		  | Bharat_123 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		   Acolyte
 
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				TX = WTX.
 
 
As i mentioned earlier. Message picking up and putting that to WTX application. BUt the flow is not continuing may be the flloing reason if understood correctly.
 
Its a synchronise request & response flow
 
 
Now i modified my MFP with 4 individual .msgFlows.
 
1. Get from client - TX
 
2. get from TX - Main Frame
 
3. get from Main Frame - TX
 
4. get From TX - reply to client
 
 
Now i am saving mt msgId into Correl Id as soon as msg pickup by msgFlow1
 
 
Thats for sure i believe i am not able to match the msgId / CorrelId for all the scenarios Thats why its not picking up.
 
 
Could u please suggested me how can i match that for the continuty of flow.
 
 
Appreciate your time and help
 
 
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		  | kamy | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Clarification - do  you have WTX for WMB i.e. can you call a WTX map in-stream from message flow.
 
 
If you can then I would code the entire process in 1 message flow.
 
 
MQinput -->compute – send data as blob --> WTX map  node→ MQGet node -> WTX Map node-> MQOut (Client customer)
 
 
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		  | Bharat_123 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		   Acolyte
 
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				fortunately  we dont have WTX for WMB. may be in future we are planning to go for that WTX plugin 8.2.03.
 
 
 
Currently we have to go like the scenario i have mentioned.
 
 
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		  | kamy | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject:  | 
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				How about using DB table to co-relate requests to the M/F and the corresponding responses, i.e remove dependency of MQGet  and use MQInput node instead?
 
 
Req 1 -MQinput -->compute --> MQoutput to TX (store MSGID in DB table)
 
 
Req 2 MQInput from TX -- > compu ----> put to mainframe MQ outputQ  (correlate Req2 to Req1 by retreiving MsgID  from DB table)
 
 
Rply 1 MQInput from Mainframe --> comp ---> put to TX 
 
(correlate Rply1 to Req1 by retreiving MsgID  from DB table)
 
 
Rply 2 get from tx ---> comp --> put to client/ customer MQout 
 
(correlate Rply2 to Req1 by retreiving MsgID  from DB table) | 
			   
			 
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		  | Bharat_123 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Acolyte
 
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				Thanks for ur reply Kamy
 
 
our design is in a such a way that we can not use DB table or we dont have a queue to store the Msg Id init. 
 
 
I believe what we have to do is everything is on runtime dynamically. 
 
 
Thanks all for ur    
 
 
 
i did look @ the example co-ordinare req reply. in that its savin MsgId in a Queue. How can i achieve that without saving either in Q or DB?
 
 
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		  | mqjeff | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:52 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Grand Master
 
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				Saving it in a DB is "dynamically, at runtime".
 
 
Anyone who says otherwise is mistaken.
 
 
Any esql Shared Variable that is declared at the Schema level is visible to all ESQL modules in that schema, apparently.
 
 
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		  | Bharat_123 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Acolyte
 
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				I apolizize may i must have misrepresnt to you. We are not using any DB and MsgId store Queue anytime.
 
 
the only way to do is map the msgId and CorrlId I believe. may be i am wrong. Please correct if i am wrong.
 
 
The 4 .msgflows has to communicate by either by msgId or CorrelId or any other process withour Db or to store to Q.
 
 
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