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				 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Browsing messages in a topic | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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				| Is is possible to browse the messages in a topic? | 
			   
			 
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		  | gs | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Master
 
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				| Um, what kind of topics are we talking about here - discussion topics in the forum, MQ topics, WMB topics? | 
			   
			 
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		  | sbuster | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Apprentice
 
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				| Topics defined in MQ.  I would like to be able to see the "topic depth", interrogate the details of any specific message in the topic etc.  All the thing I can do with MQ Explorer and Queues. | 
			   
			 
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		  | gbaddeley | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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				You mean to see how many published messages are queued on a particular topic string for a particular durable subscriber?  Why would you want to know that?
 
 
Pub/sub concepts are quite different to FIFO queuing concepts. "Topic depth" is not a meaninful term to MQ. _________________ Glenn | 
			   
			 
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		  | fjb_saper | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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	| gbaddeley wrote: | 
   
  
	You mean to see how many published messages are queued on a particular topic string for a particular durable subscriber?  Why would you want to know that?
 
 
Pub/sub concepts are quite different to FIFO queuing concepts. "Topic depth" is not a meaninful term to MQ. | 
   
 
 
 
It could be meaningful to you, if you get all your subscriptions on a specific queue, but messages for a specific topic are not getting consumed from that specific queue. Any browse action on such a queue should show you what is being left in it.
 
 
In gbaddeley's defense, if you do not specify a queue for your subscriptions, you would have to go through all generic subscribers' stuff and that doesn't make much sense....
 
 
Enjoy   _________________ MQ & Broker admin | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Council
 
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				AFAIK topics just control where published messages are routed to. The underlying queues can be browsed.
 
 
If you wanted to have a copy of messages for a given topic - register a subscription (maybe use a topic alias queue) using a queue that you can browse. | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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	| zpat wrote: | 
   
  
	AFAIK topics just control where published messages are routed to. The underlying queues can be browsed.
 
 
If you wanted to have a copy of messages for a given topic - register a subscription (maybe use a topic alias queue) using a queue that you can browse. | 
   
 
 
 
AKA a "non-managed" subscription, where MQ does not manage the queued subscription messages for you (as it does by default), you have to provide your own local queue name.
 
 
It also needs to be a "durable" subscription, so that MQ does not throw away the messages when the subscriber is not running. _________________ Glenn | 
			   
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Browsing messages in a topic | 
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		    Jedi
 
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	| sbuster wrote: | 
   
  
	| Is is possible to browse the messages in a topic? | 
   
 
 
If you are a subscriber to a topic, you get messages from the topic, you don't browse them.  Of course the underlying implementation may or may not allow you to browse them.  But in principle the pub/sub model does not treat the topic as a message store, only as a stream of messages. | 
			   
			 
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