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		  | bkRaju | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: messaging reaching backend with delay in response | 
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		   Centurion
 
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				Hi,
 
Please provide ur input:
 
there is one queue manager(QM1) between two applications.
 
messaging are reaching the backend with 1m delay ,
 
and it is going to backout queue in qmgr
 
please provide ur suggestions
 
 
appreicate ur quick response 
 
 
Thanks
 
Krishnam | 
			   
			 
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		  | exerk | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Council
 
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				Please provide further information on:
 
 
1. What you mean by: '...messaging are reaching the backend with 1m delay'.
 
 
This infers queue manger-to-queue manager message transmission, and contradicts the statement: '...there is one queue manager(QM1) between two applications'.
 
 
2. What you mean by: '...it is going to backout queue in qmgr'.
 
 
Is it a back-out queue, or do you mean the Dead-letter Queue?
 
 
You have provided insufficient information to even attempt to help you. _________________ It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. | 
			   
			 
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		  | kevinf2349 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand Master
 
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				| My guess, and that is all it can be based on your input, is that the putting application is putting the message under syncpoint and not commiting it. | 
			   
			 
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		  | bkRaju | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Centurion
 
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				It is happening in Reply message
 
suppose there are 2 applications APP1 and APP2
 
APP2 is giving reply to APP1 via QM1.
 
 
 
it is back-out queue in QM1
 
 
so message are reaching the APP1 with delay 1 minute
 
 
please let me know if u need more info
 
 
 
Thanks
 
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		  | exerk | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Council
 
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				Once again:
 
 
   
	| exerk wrote: | 
   
  
	Please provide further information on:
 
 
1. What you mean by: '...messaging are reaching the backend with 1m delay'.
 
 
This infers queue manger-to-queue manager message transmission, and contradicts the statement: '...there is one queue manager(QM1) between two applications'.
 
 
2. What you mean by: '...it is going to backout queue in qmgr'.
 
 
Is it a back-out queue, or do you mean the Dead-letter Queue? | 
   
 
 
 
Are APP1 and APP2 connected to the same queue manager, i.e. QM1? _________________ It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. | 
			   
			 
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		  | kevinf2349 | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand Master
 
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				Does APP1 time out before the reply comes back from APP2?
 
 
Is the delay measurably consistent?
 
 
If there is no network involved (ie both apps talk to the same local qmgr) then it is most likely an application issue...and again my guess is that you are putting the request message onto the queue under syncpoint and not issuing an MQCMT. | 
			   
			 
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		  | zboy | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		   Novice
 
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				how could you think that you have supplied enough info for anyone to determine the problem?
 
why should anyone help you when you have made practically no effort to help yourself? | 
			   
			 
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		  | gbaddeley | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		    Jedi Knight
 
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				Its also worth pointing out that signficant delays (seconds to minutes) in MQ message processing flows are typically 99% due to application operation or design issues, not MQ  !  The hard part is identifying where and why the delays occur. _________________ Glenn | 
			   
			 
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