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		  | MQfirstlady | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Determining if MQClient or MQServer is installed | 
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		   Newbie
 
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				Aside from comparing the contents of /opt/mqm, or checking for the /var/mqm/qmgrs directory (which is present), is there an easy way to determine if MQClient or MQServer is installed?
 
 
I have an HP-UX machine that has MQ installed, but does not have any queue managers. I was not with this company when the current install was completed and we do not have documentation regarding what is installed. I need to upgrade from v5.3 to v6.0.2.2 and since that requires an uninstall, I want to ensure that what I reinstall is the same as what is currently there.
 
 
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		  | Vitor | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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				If you've got a qmgrs directory, it's a server not a client. _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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		  | MQfirstlady | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject:  | 
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		  | jefflowrey | 
		  
		    
			  
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		   Grand Poobah
 
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				The HP-UX swinstall tool/tools should give you a way to find out what packages are installed. _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. | 
			   
			 
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		  | MQfirstlady | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject:  | 
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				This is the output of the swlist:
 
 
# MQ64CSP                                       B.11.520.00    MQSeries 64bit Client Libraries for HP-UX (64 bit) 
 
  MQ64CSP.MQM-64-CLIB                           B.11.530.00    64 bit client libraries for HP-UX 
 
# MQSERIES                                      B.11.530.02    WebSphere MQ for HP-UX 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-BASE                             B.11.530.02    Files required on all systems 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-CL-HPUX                          B.11.530.02    Remote client for HP-UX 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-JAVA                             B.11.530.02    WebSphere MQ Java Client & JMS 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-KEYMAN                           B.11.530.02    WebSphere MQ SSL Key management 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MAN                              B.11.530.02    Man pages      
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-CHINES                        B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Simplified Chinese 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-CHINET                        B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Traditional Chinese 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-FRENCH                        B.11.530.02    Message catalog for French 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-GERMAN                        B.11.530.02    Message catalog for German 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-ITALIAN                       B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Italian 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-JAPAN                         B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Japanese 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-KOREAN                        B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Korean 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-PORT                          B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Portuguese 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-MC-SPANISH                       B.11.530.02    Message catalog for Spanish 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-RUNTIME                          B.11.530.02    Files required on all systems 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-SAMPLES                          B.11.530.02    Sample programs with source 
 
  MQSERIES.MQM-SERVER                           B.11.530.02    For WebSphere MQ Server systems 
 
# MQSERIES                                      B.11.530.08    WebSphere MQ Update (U497534) for HP-UX 
 
  MQSERIES.U497534                              B.11.530.08    WebSphere MQ Update for HP-UX 
 
 
I was concerned because I saw the Client libraries specifically mentioned near the top but then the Server stuff near the bottom.
 
 
Looks like I will be uninstalling MQ5.3 and reinstalling the server version of MQ6.0 (then 6.0.2.2).
 
 
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		  | mvic | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| MQfirstlady wrote: | 
   
  
	| Looks like I will be uninstalling MQ5.3 and reinstalling the server version of MQ6.0 (then 6.0.2.2). | 
   
 
 
I'm not trying to be funny, but if you don't need a "server" - ie. a queue manager - running here, you don't need to install the server product.
 
 
Are there other facts that can be brought to bear on the decision - eg. run ps -ef and check whether there's actually a queue manager running... check with the app and MQ ops teams to see if they expect a queue manager to run here.  If not, then the client install is perhaps preferable...
 
 
If you DO upgrade to MQ 6.0.2.2 server product, you'll need to ensure the important data is backed up first and you have done a dry run somewhere to check it all goes to plan. | 
			   
			 
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		  | Vitor | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Grand High Poobah
 
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	| MQfirstlady wrote: | 
   
  
	| I was concerned because I saw the Client libraries specifically mentioned near the top but then the Server stuff near the bottom. | 
   
 
 
 
Would it help if I pointed out most server installs also have the client installed for those applications running locally that don't want to make a bindings connection? This list is therefore perfectly normal. _________________ Honesty is the best policy.
 
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		  | MQfirstlady | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I am not sure how/why the decision was made to not create a queue manager on this server. We are going to look into the possibility/necessity of creating a queue manager here. | 
			   
			 
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		  | SAFraser | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Shaman
 
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				| If only the client is being used, you are paying for server licenses you do not need..... | 
			   
			 
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		  | LouML | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Partisan
 
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	| Vitor wrote: | 
   
  
	| If you've got a qmgrs directory, it's a server not a client. | 
   
 
 
 
I have the same issue on an x86 solaris box. I was told that this server was only running MQ Client, yet I see a qmgrs directory. 
 
 
   
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	bash-3.00$ dspmqver
 
Name:        WebSphere MQ
 
Version:     6.0.1.0
 
CMVC level:  p600-100-051021
 
BuildType:   IKAP - (Production)
 
bash-3.00$ ls -laF /var/mqm
 
total 30
 
drwxrwsr-x  10 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 ./
 
drwxr-xr-x  45 root     sys         1024 Oct  5  2006 ../
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 config/
 
drwxrwsr-x   3 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 conv/
 
drwxrwsrwx   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 errors/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 exits/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 exits64/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 log/
 
-rw-rw-r--   1 mqm      mqm         2104 Oct  5  2006 mqs.ini
 
drwxrwsr-x   3 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 qmgrs/
 
-rw-rw-r--   1 mqm      mqm         1373 Oct  5  2006 service.env
 
drwxrwsrwx   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 trace/
 
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		  | jefflowrey | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject:  | 
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		   Grand Poobah
 
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				On solaris, you should be able to use something related to pkgadd to list the installed packages... _________________ I am *not* the model of the modern major general. | 
			   
			 
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		  | SAFraser | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject:  | 
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		    Shaman
 
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				On Solaris:
 
 
pkginfo | grep mqm | 
			   
			 
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		  | LouML | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| jefflowrey wrote: | 
   
  
	| On solaris, you should be able to use something related to pkgadd to list the installed packages... | 
   
 
 
 
   
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	On Solaris: 
 
 
pkginfo | grep mqm
 
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Hmmm.. now I'm confused. I have a qmgrs directory and the pkginfo command says it's WebSphere Client
 
 
   
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	bash-3.00$ ls -laF /var/mqm
 
total 30
 
drwxrwsr-x  10 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 ./
 
drwxr-xr-x  45 root     sys         1024 Oct  5  2006 ../
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 config/
 
drwxrwsr-x   3 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 conv/
 
drwxrwsrwx   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 errors/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 exits/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 exits64/
 
drwxrwsr-x   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 log/
 
-rw-rw-r--   1 mqm      mqm         2104 Oct  5  2006 mqs.ini
 
drwxrwsr-x   3 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 qmgrs/
 
-rw-rw-r--   1 mqm      mqm         1373 Oct  5  2006 service.env
 
drwxrwsrwx   2 mqm      mqm          512 Oct  5  2006 trace/
 
bash-3.00$ pkginfo | grep -i mq
 
application mqm                              WebSphere MQ Client for Sun Solaris
 
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		  | mvic | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| LouML wrote: | 
   
  
	| Hmmm.. now I'm confused. I have a qmgrs directory and the pkginfo command says it's WebSphere Client | 
   
 
 
pkginfo says you have an MQ client.  If more verification is required, say
 
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		  | LouML | 
		  
		    
			  
				 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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	| LouML wrote: | 
   
  
	| Hmmm.. now I'm confused. I have a qmgrs directory and the pkginfo command says it's WebSphere Client | 
   
 
 
pkginfo says you have an MQ client.  If more verification is required, say
 
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Sure looks like Client. I just wonder why the qmgrs directory got created. 
 
 
Perhaps the previous admin installed MQ Client from the full MQ Server install, rather than the MQ Client tar file?
 
 
   
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	bash-3.00$ ls -l /opt/mqm/bin
 
total 892
 
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root          21 Oct  5  2006 amqcctca -> /opt/mqm/lib/amqcctca
 
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root          21 Oct  5  2006 amqcltca -> /opt/mqm/lib/amqcltca
 
-r-xr-x---   1 mqm      mqm        28672 Oct 21  2005 amqicdir
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm        36724 Oct 21  2005 amqiclen
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm          557 Oct 12  2005 amqwCleanSideQueue.sh
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm          874 Oct 12  2005 amqwclientConfig.sh
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm          576 Oct 12  2005 amqwclientTransport.wsdd
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm          692 Oct 12  2005 amqwdeployWMQService.sh
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm         3997 Oct 12  2005 amqwsetcp.sh
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm          606 Oct 12  2005 amqwstartwin.sh
 
-r-sr-sr-x   1 mqm      mqm        21456 Oct 21  2005 amqxmsg0
 
-r-xr-x---   1 mqm      mqm          785 Oct 12  2005 crtmqlnk
 
-r-xr-x---   1 mqm      mqm          695 Oct 12  2005 dltmqlnk
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm        40512 Oct 21  2005 dspmqtrc
 
-r-xr-xr-x   1 mqm      mqm        21136 Oct 21  2005 dspmqver
 
-r-sr-s---   1 mqm      mqm       117432 Oct 21  2005 endmqtrc
 
-r-sr-s---   1 mqm      mqm        31192 Oct 21  2005 runmqtmc
 
-r-sr-s---   1 mqm      mqm       119048 Oct 21  2005 strmqtrc
 
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