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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if you just have a single process with a single thread doing gets from a single queue, and you're using FIFO order (default), then you'll be sending out messages in the order you're getting them.

But there's no guarantee that this is actually "in sequence".

They may have been sent out of sequence already, they may get streamed to the receiving customer in sequence but then get load-balanced across a cluster or something....

There's a discussion in the Intercommunications manual about how the network between two queue managers can change the sequence of messages received.
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thimerion
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Intercommunications manual Reply with quote

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Thanks for that,

Yes we are using one app to put the messages on the queue. it does do the put command in sequence then it goes over 3 QM's, after that is is out of sequence.

where can I find this Intercommunications manual ....

I really would like to read that section you are talking about.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv6/v6r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.csqzae.doc/ic11080_.htm
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jefflowrey wrote:
You mean a Confirm On Arrival or Confirm on Delivery Report Message?

yes... got my TLA's mixed up...
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Michael Dag wrote:
jefflowrey wrote:
You mean a Confirm On Arrival or Confirm on Delivery Report Message?

yes... got my TLA's mixed up...


That wasn't even in response to your message... You actually beat me to the punch once!
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: coa Reply with quote

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Hi,

Anyone has an example java program that requests a coa message?

Tim
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some other things to consider:

Is every message you put a PERSISTENT message? This will be specified either in the pmo or in your queue remote definition (or both, depending).

Take a look at your sender channel definition. Does it specify NPMSPEED(FAST)? Does the sender channel on the intermediary queue manager specify NPMSPEED(FAST)?

Is there a program on the intermediary queue manager that re-processes your message before putting it to the transmit queue to the destination queue manager? Does it create a non-persistent message?

Non-persistent messages intermixed with persistent messages AND with NPMSPEED(FAST) can affect the downstream delivery order.

Is your queue manager in a cluster? Is the intermediary queue manager or the destination queue manager in a cluster?

Are there multiple paths from the originating queue manager to the intermediary queue manager? Or from intermediary queue manager to the destination queue manager?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: coa Reply with quote

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thimerion wrote:
Hi,

Anyone has an example java program that requests a coa message?

Tim


I placed example here:

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=36848
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