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| RicTicFL |
 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:16 pm Post subject: FFST(FDC) thrown by MQClient Application |
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MQVersion 9.2
OS: AIX
Client J2SE app using MQJMS classes executing on ServerA
Connecting to MQServer executing on ServerB
Network connectivity issue occurs between servers
Result: FFST(FDC)s thrown on Client side (ServerA)
Is this expected behaviour?
My knowledge thus far is limited to seeing FFSTs thrown on Server-side only so this was a little unexpected.
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Can you post the header of the FDC file? We may be able to offer some insight.
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| RicTicFL |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| gbaddeley wrote: |
| Can you post the header of the FDC file? We may be able to offer some insight. |
I am restricted from posting the FDC directly (originating from secure environment and all that).
What fields are you interested in exactly? |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:00 am Post subject: |
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The first 50 lines or so will identify the MQ version, the ProbeID, failing component, and so on. There will no user data.
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| RicTicFL |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| The first 50 lines or so will identify the MQ version, the ProbeID, failing component, and so on. There will no user data. |
Be that as it may, I am prevented from directly posting. Here are snippets:
Java Vendor :- IBM Corporation
Java Version :- 2.9
Source Class :- WMQMessageConsumer
Source Method :- checkJmqiCallSuccess
ProbeID :- XN004008
Thread :- name=JMS-LISTENER[--maskedprogramname--] priority=5 group=main ccl=sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader@7a971630
| comcode :-2
| hconn :- com.ibm.mq.jmqi.remote.impl.RemoteSession[--maskedSessionConnectionIdentifier--]
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| | XMSC_DESTINATION_NAME :- maskedQueueName
| messageId :- JMSWMQ2002
| reason :- 2018
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Search google for the probe-ID, and/or open a PMR with IBM.
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| RicTicFL |
| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Search google for the probe-ID, and/or open a PMR with IBM. |
I would still like to know whether throwing FDCs is an acceptable / expected behaviour for an MQ Client application |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| RicTicFL wrote: |
| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Search google for the probe-ID, and/or open a PMR with IBM. |
I would still like to know whether throwing FDCs is an acceptable / expected behaviour for an MQ Client application |
FDC’s Failure Data Capture capture data on unexpected errors. Are unexpected errors acceptable or expected? Yes and no.
Software is written by people, people make mistakes. Would you prefer such occurrences be suppressed (hidden from view)? IBM wants to gather as much failure data as possible to provide remediation in the form of PTFs, APAR FIXES, and new features and functions - for both server and client software.
It it helps, think of FDC's as equivalents of warning lights on your cars dashboard, namely that a warning or error has been detected, and that you should do something about it.
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| hughson |
| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| RicTicFL wrote: |
| comcode :-2
| hconn :- com.ibm.mq.jmqi.remote.impl.RemoteSession[--maskedSessionConnectionIdentifier--]
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| | XMSC_DESTINATION_NAME :- maskedQueueName
| messageId :- JMSWMQ2002
| reason :- 2018
IBM MQ JMS Provider
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In addition to what others have said, all of which I agree with, looking at this specific error, we can see that the MQ Reason code is 2018 MQRC_HCONN_ERROR. This suggests a code path has been taken without a successful MQCONN, where the hConn that would have been returned from a successful MQCONN being used when it isn't valid. This is certainly the sort of thing that shouldn't happen and should definitely be reported to IBM for correction.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen MQRC 2018 where the MQ client application has attempted a MQCONN which failed (for whatever reason) but the application merrirly carried on and attempted to MQOPEN without a valid connection handle.
If I had to bet on whether it was IBM code or application code not checking the handle was valid - my money would be on the application.
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Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error. |
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| hughson |
| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
I've seen MQRC 2018 where the MQ client application has attempted a MQCONN which failed (for whatever reason) but the application merrirly carried on and attempted to MQOPEN without a valid connection handle.
If I had to bet on whether it was IBM code or application code not checking the handle was valid - my money would be on the application. |
While that is generally true, for JMS applications, which is what is surfacing the FDC in this case, the handles are not available to the application and so it cannot make this error. The error must, it seems, be in the JMS code from IBM.
Cheers,
Morag
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