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hrengifo
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Help with pub/sub Reply with quote

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hi everybody.
i have a technical question that i can not work out.
my solution have two components, the first one is a broker flow and the other one is a jee app.
1. my jee app publish a message on a MQ topic
2. when the broker flow are executed, reads (browse) the message on a queue that are listening the topic
3. broker flow modifies the message with some content of the queue read in the point 2

my issue is that i always need to read the last message published, without using message priority. it is like if the new publications overrides the old one.
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exerk
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Help with pub/sub Reply with quote

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hrengifo wrote:
...my issue is that i always need to read the last message published, without using message priority. it is like if the new publications overrides the old one.

That's generally how pub/sub works - who would want 'old' information?
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It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Queues don't listen. They only hold messages.

Active and matching subscriptions are passed messages. If you define an administrative durable subscription with a destination of a queue, that queue will get all the messages sent.

You can read that queue until the last message on the queue which will be the last one published.

However the classic model of picking up just the last one published is called "retained publication". In this case the pub/sub engine keeps the most recent message available, so if someone then subscribes after the time it was published - they can still pick it up.

In this case the application dynamically subscribes whenever it wants to collect the last published message. No queues are necessarily used.

This requires the publisher to set the "retained publication" flag. However WMB nodes do not dynamically subscribe to publications (as far as I know). If you think about it - how would the flow know when to subscribe?

Usually WMB input nodes are active all the time, in which case you can use an administrative subscription to feed the flow via a queue. But the flow would get invoked for every message.

So you need to decide what criteria would cause you to look for the most recent publication. I.e. When is this needed? At intervals perhaps?

Read the pub/sub documentation for WMQ first, then see how (or if) the WMB broker can fit into that.
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Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
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