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| zpat |
 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: Computer Based Training for WMB - does it exist? |
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I've been asked if any CBT for WMB exists anywhere?
I'm not aware of such - anyone else heard of some? |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Computer Based Training for WMB - does it exist? |
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| mqjeff |
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| nathanw |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: |
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we need a Like button on this forum
especially in regards to lancelot's last post
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| McueMart |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: |
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So the virtual/online still has a human at the other end?
Or is it actually interacting with software only?
It is fully automated - or semi-automated?
It probably would be suitable, but the reason I am being asked this question is the person asking it was looking for an inexpensive solution. It's quite pricey (although I am sure it's good). |
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| nathanw |
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Have to admit my jaw hit the desk at the price of the Online training compared to classroom etc
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| nathanw wrote: |
we need a Like button on this forum
especially in regards to lancelot's last post |
No we don't. He'll be basking in his long awaited vindication without us.
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| Vitor |
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| zpat wrote: |
| So the virtual/online still has a human at the other end? |
There is a "human at the end" version.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| nathanw wrote: |
| Have to admit my jaw hit the desk at the price of the Online training compared to classroom etc |
I was quite surprised myself. 
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Again, the relevant choices for IBM education material are "instructor-led" or "self-paced".
The relevant options for "self-paced" are "online/virtual/remote".
The relevant options for "instructor-led" are "classroom" or "online/remote".
Instructor-led should obviously be more expensive than self-paced. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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And don't forget to follow-on with the 674 course once you complete the 664 course.
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/us/en?pageType=course_description&courseCode=VM674
Training is an investment. Many lucky people have access to employer-sponsored investment options. Some of us use our own wages to invest in ourselves.
Cheap is not necessarily the best. When I buy a car, I don't choose the model with the least costly purchase price. I often choose a Honda that is a little more expensive than a Ford. I feel in the long run, the value I receive from my investment in a moderately-priced motor vehicle is greater value than if I had chosen the cheaper-priced Ford or Toyota since the Honda is more reliable.
Training is the same way. If you want to be a Java programmer, there are lots of low-cost options available to you. If you want to earn the big bucks that good WMB developers earn, you have to invest a little more money up front. If you don't have the personal or professional confidence in your own ability, then my advice to your friend would be stick to Java programming.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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WMB courses are very expensive. About double the training budget per capita (during these difficult economic times) at my site.
Still not entirely clear, is a self-paced, remote online course entirely computer based? Or does an instructor review labs etc? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
WMB courses are very expensive. About double the training budget per capita (during these difficult economic times) at my site.
Still not entirely clear, is a self-paced, remote online course entirely computer based? Or does an instructor review labs etc? |
self-paced has no involvement from an instructor at all, to the best of my knowledge.
There may be an opportunity to ask for specific assistance, but I don't think it's as comprehensive as you are suggesting. |
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| lancelotlinc |
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