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| Ko |
 Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:47 am Post subject: Performance MQSeries 6.0.2.5 |
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Dear all,
we are using MQ Server 6.0.2.5 on Unix and we have an issue with the performance of MQSeries.
I see that many processes (grep on proces mqm) beginning with
/opt/mqm/bin/amqcrsta -m <QUEUEMANAGER>
Is it normal that there are more that one proces if the system is busy?
Is there also something like a tool to measure the performance?
Hope you can help us.
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| WMBDEV1 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Check that the applications that are using client connections to talk to the QM are correctly closing their connections.
dis chstatus(channel) should show the connections on a particular channel, if you have more than you would expect its definatly time to look at the app  |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| we have an issue with the performance of MQSeries |
What performance issue are you having with MQ? What symptoms are you experiencing? Can you be specific?
Is it just with client-connections, for example? Or does the same perf issue exist with client AND local connections?
What is new/changed on the server? Any new applications, for example?
What have you tried?
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| bbburson |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Performance MQSeries 6.0.2.5 |
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| Ko wrote: |
| /opt/mqm/bin/amqcrsta -m <QUEUEMANAGER> |
Those processes are associated with the inetd listener. Ever since version 5.3 IBM has recommended using the MQ listener instead. You'll still have multiple processes for client connections (amqrmppa I think they are called), but not as many and the ones that are there are more efficient in their use of system resources. |
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| Ko |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: |
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All, thanks for the answers!
When I do a top on the processes I see many commands beginning with:
/opt/mqm/bin/amqcrsta -m <QUEUEMANAGER>
When I do a dis chs(*) in MQSeries I see that there are many SYSTEM.DEF.SVRCONN channels (more than 60).
I am not really sure if it is a MQ problem but I see that our server(clustered) having some memory problems (and is swapping). When it is swapping I see as many as the described processes.
For my understanding, when I receive/send a message it will have a SYSTEM.DEF.SVRCONN channel and/or amqcrsta process? |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| having some memory problems |
Swapping is normal behavior in any o/s. Swapping is not a performance problem unless you are missing SLAs. Swapping means that there is more demand for real storage (RAM) than is currently available.
The usual solution: add more RAM.
So, are you missing SLAs? Is anyone complaining? Other than many instances of the svrconn channel, what performance issues are you experiencing?
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Performance MQSeries 6.0.2.5 |
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| bbburson wrote: |
| Ko wrote: |
| /opt/mqm/bin/amqcrsta -m <QUEUEMANAGER> |
Those processes are associated with the inetd listener. Ever since version 5.3 IBM has recommended using the MQ listener instead. You'll still have multiple processes for client connections (amqrmppa I think they are called), but not as many and the ones that are there are more efficient in their use of system resources. |
Yes its amqrmppa and each one can handle 64 threads, or 64 channels.
Ko,
When IBM announced you should us runmqlsr and not inetd, performance was one of the reasons. Define a listener object for the QM using runmqsc and have the QM control its starting and stopping, and dump inetd for MQ.
This may or may not have anything to do with your perceived MQ performance problem.
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| Ko |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
we see on our server that the memory is increased to the max of 2GB RAM.
I see that the system reserves 25MB pro amqcrsta proces but only uses 3MB. Where is te rest of the 22MB? When we go to use a listener, does it mean that there will be more memory available?
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| we see on our server that the memory is increased to the max of 2GB RAM. |
Memory for what has increased to the max of 2GB? A queue manager instance?
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| Ko |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| No I mean that we have only 2GB of RAM totally. Not pro instance. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Add more RAM. Refer to the Quick Beginnings manual to find the hardware requirements.
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| JosephGramig |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| The inetd configuration is only supported for backwards compatibility. It is known to be the least efficient way to run channels. |
inetd became obsolete when runmqlsr came in years back.
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| Ko |
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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JosephGramig said,
The inetd configuration is only supported for backwards compatibility.
We use 6.0.2.5., on the other side they use 5.2, do you mean that this combination is not possible to run a listener? If no, do you need to define the listener on two sides (remote QM and local QM)? |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Ko wrote: |
JosephGramig said,
The inetd configuration is only supported for backwards compatibility.
We use 6.0.2.5., on the other side they use 5.2, do you mean that this combination is not possible to run a listener? If no, do you need to define the listener on two sides (remote QM and local QM)? |
No. For your queue manager, which is at V6.0.2.5, you should configure a Listener object, and place it under control of the queue manager. The other end must use the method appropriate to V5.2 on their platform - very brave people to still be on that version 
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