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| jacobjonz |
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telnet says it could not open the connection.
what could be wrong? |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| what could be wrong? |
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If the failure persists, record the error
values and contact your systems administrator. |
Don't ask us - ask the guy responsible for your connection!
I imagine his explaination will include the word "firewall".
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| jacobjonz |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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thanx 4 that.
and sorry for the trouble  |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Open a CMD window and try to ping the server hostname/IP Address to first check whether you can get across the network, then please post the relevant parts of your definitions of:
Sending queue manager SENDER channel
Sending queue manager TRANSMISSION queue
Receiving queue manager RECEIVER channel
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| exerk wrote: |
| Open a CMD window and try to ping the server hostname/IP Address to first check whether you can get across the network, |
| jacobjonz wrote: |
| i can ping the ip using the command mode |
Do keep up.
Also this (as we've proved) doesn't help where the rules are at a port level.
I'm also unfamiliar with the scenario where the transmission queue definition affects the channel running..... 
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| exerk |
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| Vitor wrote: |
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| Open a CMD window and try to ping the server hostname/IP Address to first check whether you can get across the network, |
| jacobjonz wrote: |
| i can ping the ip using the command mode |
Do keep up. |
Doh!  and a fair cop guvnor
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| I'm also unfamiliar with the scenario where the transmission queue definition affects the channel running..... |
I just wanted to see if the channel is triggered - I should have been more explicit as to why I wanted the information, which was hopefully to pre-empt the next question once the channel is working.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| I just wanted to see if the channel is triggered - I should have been more explicit as to why I wanted the information, which was hopefully to pre-empt the next question once the channel is working. |
Fair point.
For the record, and the benefit of future readers, the existence of a channel error in the log indicates that the channel is already started and trying to connect so the trigger status is irrelevant here.
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| jacobjonz |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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i have got the firewall turned off
and the channel is up now.
but, now when i try in cmd:
amqsput q2 QM2
it sends back error 2058
q2 is the queue in QM2 running in the queue manager over the network |
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| Vitor |
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i have got the firewall turned off
and the channel is up now. |
Your network guy is kinda laid back.
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amqsput q2 QM2
it sends back error 2058
q2 is the queue in QM2 running in the queue manager over the network |
Yes it would do. Your next steps:
- Re-read the Intercommunication manual
- Look up the error code and think about what it's telling you
- Have a scan through the Application documents if the Intercommunication guide hasn't made it clear enough how messages move
We are not a training nor a support forum. But here's a hint: what did I say earlier up this thread when you claimed data moved "from channel to channel"? Indeed, what is the title of this thread?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| do u mean that i should add a remote queue definition in the q manager running in the local machine? |
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| exerk |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| You don't say what platform you're on so the fish I am about to throw may not be the right one, however the principle is exactly the same HOW TO... |
This was exactly the right fish... 
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i understand that u are telling me to move the data first to a local queue and then transfer it over the network. but, i dont know how to move the data and how i specify the destination queue in that case.
this may seem pretty much dumb to u. but, this is frm a guy hu has heard abt mq for the first time, 2 days bak |
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| jacobjonz |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| so, without defining a remote queue object, cant i send the data to a q on another q--manager? |
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| Vitor |
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| i understand that u are telling me to move the data first to a local queue and then transfer it over the network. |
No we're not. And neither are you - you said "remote" queue definition yourself when prompted. I repeat, re-read the Intercommunicaton manual. It will get so much easier if you grasp the fundamentals before defining likely sounding objects.
You especially need to shake this belief you have that WMQ "transfers" stuff between queue managers as a separate opertation.
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| this may seem pretty much dumb to u. but, this is frm a guy hu has heard abt mq for the first time, 2 days bak |
I've said it before, WMQ is not a simple product and you should push back on your deadlines.
I've also said we're not a training forum. You will keep hitting these issues and this is not the best place to get them resolved. Or the best way for you, long term.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| so, without defining a remote queue object, cant i send the data to a q on another q--manager? |
In the configuration you've currently set up, you need a remote queue. Not all configurations share this need.
It all depends on your requirements, how you design your WMQ set up and what's using it. Most of us make a living from juggling those variables. 
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