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George Carey
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: (computer or environmental) system Reply with quote

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"...what prompted me to spend time on this, ... must have been some looming catastrophe involving ... resources ..."

I couldn't help but think, a good trigger to action in general ... !!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: reinventing the wheel Reply with quote

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George Carey wrote:
2.) Is there some reason IBM could not have just had this succinct explanatory paragraph in their documentation !?

If you raise it via a Feedback, you might find IBM would agree with you and clarify things in the docs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
The use of scratchpad objects is not well documented, either.

Why is this a problem?
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George Carey
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: feedback link Reply with quote

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Got a feedback link.

best I can find before frustration sets in is this documentation feedback url:
https://www-304.ibm.com/support/us/fbmast.html
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: feedback link Reply with quote

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George Carey wrote:
Got a feedback link.


At the bottom of every page in the InfoCenter...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: feedback Reply with quote

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I keep getting to that funky url after google searching for 'wmq v7 library' and then going to v7.0.0 tab ... do local search MaxChannels and first search items gives same crappy wrong doco ...

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0m0/index.jsp

also feedback button doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: feedback Reply with quote

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George Carey wrote:
also feedback button doesn't work.


You're right...

I'll send a note. Check back tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: feedback Reply with quote

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I'd be surprised if it's called WMQ in any official documentation. Things like this are usually spelt out in full: "WebSphere MQ".

Another thing that surprises me is that that historical docn is still available.

Try:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/index.jsp
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mvic wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
The use of scratchpad objects is not well documented, either.

Why is this a problem?

No, no problem.

I was attempting to differentiate between documented outcomes (how things work) and undocumented methods of accomplishing those outcomes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Alabamaese Reply with quote

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"...spelt out in full: ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

Or is that Alabamaese for 'spelled' ...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Alabamaese Reply with quote

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George Carey wrote:
"...spelt out in full: ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

Interesting.

Searched and found others similar: burn, learn, smell*, spill*, spoil

All can end -ed or -t.

(For items marked * then one "l" must be removed for the -t version).

To my mind, the -ed version emphasizes the verb to which it attaches. And the -t version emphasizes the ending state, the verb having been enacted.

But I am no scholar of English.

Thanks for mentioning it - I really learn[ed|t] something today.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...and all the while, I was thinking mvic was using the Yiddish word "shpelt" meaning money...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: verb having been enacted !! Reply with quote

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All can end -ed or -t.
I think only below the Mason/Dixon line. Or maybe Western West Virginia.

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And the -t version emphasizes the ending state, the verb having been enacted.
I like that ... you will have to give me the name of that conjugation tense !
Otherwise I think it is just an alternative spelling for the 'ed' word.

Actually I learnt something ... I didn't even think it was an accepted alternative spelling ..

Have a Merry Christmas, or whatever relevant holiday season !
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: verb having been enacted !! Reply with quote

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Have a Merry Christmas, or whatever relevant holiday season !

And the same to you, sir.

Oh, and the point about alternative spelling is fair enough. The online dictionaries do agree with you, there. I was just suggesting how things work out in my head. No-one else need agree with me..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can somebody clarify this for me?
I have in my mind that the differentiation might be more of an accepted subtlety:
You would use spelled preferably when alluding to witchcraft, like I've been spelled but never use I've been spelt unless you meant a form/tense of spelling... and if you don't care about either just use spelled.
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