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rajesh00001
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Not able to start multi-instance queue manager Reply with quote

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Hi All,

I have multi-instance queue manager. when I am starting the queue manager using strmqm -x queuemanagername command, status is showing as "starting" for hours. Help me on this issue.
QMNAME(XXXXX) STATUS(Starting)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One moment whilst I consult my crystal ball...


...nope, sorry, it's gone cloudy.


How do you expect anyone to give you help with your problem when you provide so little information?
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rajesh00001
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Exerk,

You are correct, But didn't any FDC files or queue manager logs after I ran strmqm -x command. it is just hung like below .

/var/mqm $ strmqm -x UATMQ7011
WebSphere MQ queue manager 'UATMQ7011' starting.
The queue manager is associated with installation 'Installation1'.


QMNAME(UATMQ7011) STATUS(Starting)


/var/mqm/ $ ps -ef | grep UATMQ7011
mqm 1725 45536 0 13:36 pts/2 00:00:19 strmqm -x UATMQ7011
mqm 1728 1725 0 13:36 ? 00:00:00 /opt/mqm/bin/amqzxma0 -m UATMQ7011 -x
mqm 1733 1728 0 13:36 ? 00:00:00 /opt/mqm/bin/amqzfuma -m UATMQ7011
mqm 1738 1728 0 13:36 ? 00:00:01 /opt/mqm/bin/amqzmuc0 -m UATMQ7011
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rajesh00001 wrote:
You are correct, But didn't any FDC files or queue manager logs after I ran strmqm -x command. it is just hung like below .


Awesome.

So you still want us to infer you're using some kind of Unix, and guess which Unix, which version of Unix and which version of MQ?

The longer it takes you to actually give enough information about your problem, the less likely we are to want to help you.

Has it ever worked or is this a new set up? Did something change recently?

We're grumpy, old and don't have enough years left to waste time.

It would also help your case if you'd posted your "I have problem please help" in the right section not just the first one you saw. You're clearly engaged with this problem and it's solution.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you see if you type the following command:-

Code:
dspmq -m UATMQ7011 -x -o all

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rajesh00001
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Below is the LINUX version
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.9 (Santiago)

This is old queue manager and was working fine till 15th November. Suddenly it went down and after that on wards it is not starting. But 2 weeks back we have upgraded from 7.5.0.3 to 7.5.0.9

dspmq -m UATMQ7011 -x -o all
QMNAME(UATMQ7011) STATUS(Starting) DEFAULT(no) STANDBY(NotPermitted) INSTNAME(Installation1) INSTPATH(/opt/mqm) INSTVER(7.5.0.9)
INSTANCE(XXXXX) MODE(Active)

We are planning to recreate the queue manager. please let me know your thoughts
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hughson
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rajesh00001 wrote:
dspmq -m UATMQ7011 -x -o all
QMNAME(UATMQ7011) STATUS(Starting) DEFAULT(no) STANDBY(NotPermitted) INSTNAME(Installation1) INSTPATH(/opt/mqm) INSTVER(7.5.0.9)
INSTANCE(XXXXX) MODE(Active)

Is the INSTANCE that is shown in your output above, the one you are trying to start or the other instance? You have X'd it out, but then we also don't have the information to interpret which machine is which anyway since you haven't told us what the two machines are called. You'll have to tell us what that means from your knowledge of the system.

I notice it says STANDBY(NotPermitted) so I wonder if it is the other instance of the queue manager which was started without the -x flag since you showed us that you used the -x flag on the command that began this thread?

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rajesh00001
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi All,

Thanks a lot for your time to help me to resolve the issue. Luckily found the issue. issue is listener processes showing as defunct. this processes was running from 14th November. Once we killed this processes we are able to start queue manager

[runmqlsr] <defunct>

Thanks,
Ramesh
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you create listener objects? Or do you manually start listeners with the runmqlsr control command from a command prompt?
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ankurlodhi
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i thought using runmqlsr died out with MQ 5.3, people started working with Listener objects after version 6. but in my last project they were using a a script to start the listener with runmqlsr and i did wonder what the benefits of having a listener process instead of using listener object.
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It’s the same executable. The benefit of the listener object is letting the qmgr start the listener at qmgr startup, and stop it at qmgr shutdown.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rajesh00001 wrote:
Hi All,

Thanks a lot for your time to help me to resolve the issue. Luckily found the issue. issue is listener processes showing as defunct. this processes was running from 14th November. Once we killed this processes we are able to start queue manager

[runmqlsr] <defunct>

Thanks,
Ramesh

Thanks for posting the solution. Really counter intuitive when I am looking at the previous post:
Code:
STANDBY(NotPermitted)


I would have thought that trying to start the qmgr without the -x might have then shown the pid of the offending process...
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hughson
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ankurlodhi wrote:
i thought using runmqlsr died out with MQ 5.3, people started working with Listener objects after version 6. but in my last project they were using a a script to start the listener with runmqlsr and i did wonder what the benefits of having a listener process instead of using listener object.
Interestingly, that was the subject of a blog post I wrote last month!

Read it here:

IBM MQ Little Gem #36: Listener Control

Cheers,
Morag
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