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harshatej1
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: transmission queue Reply with quote

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while altering/changing transmission queue, is it necessary to alter remote queue definition also....

i.e., defining a new transmission queue and altering channel name are not sufficient
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Vitor
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does the remote queue definition explicitly reference the transmission queue? If so, how will it locate the new name?

If it does not, will the new name facilitate the correct name resolution for the remote object?

Do you plan to keep posting simplistic questions rather than actually figuring things out for yourself?

I don't think you've asked a question yet which isn't answered by the documentation (I assume you've located some documentation for your v5.3 version written on some stone tablets someplace) or isn't answered by 5 minutes of experimentation.
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rachakonda_v
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:46 am    Post subject: Messages are not coming into Transmission Queue Reply with quote

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Hello,

I was placing the message in the remote queue and message was not reaching to the destination, but channels and transmission was perfectly setup.

Messages are not visible in the queues.

I believe there is an option which was done long ago, if we select that option the messages will be come into the transmission queues.

Waiting for your reply.

Thanks,
Vamsi
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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congratulations, you invented invisible messages.

you should re-read and reflect how distributed queueing works.

RQ -> XMITQ -> CHANNEL -> Destination (simple construct)

Now, what happens if you change the XMITQ name? Which objects are related? Have you considered other aspects of tghe naming resolution, e.g. clustering, default xmitq, .... ?!? (if not, re-read that chapter too)
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I prefer to leave out the xmitq name in remote queue definitions - assuming there is a xmit queue which has the same name as the remote queue manager name.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
I prefer to leave out the xmitq name in remote queue definitions - assuming there is a xmit queue which has the same name as the remote queue manager name.


Agreed.

I tend to only define a specific xmit queue when there are multiple channels to the destination and I require certain messages to use one channel over another but that is fairly rare these days.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Messages are not coming into Transmission Queue Reply with quote

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rachakonda_v wrote:
I believe there is an option which was done long ago, if we select that option the messages will be come into the transmission queues.


I believe in the Easter Bunny. Doesn't mean there is an Easter Bunny.
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zpat
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One programming point to bear in mind is - if the application opens a queue, specifiying a queue name and a queue manager name, and if that QM name is not the local QM - then MQ will automatically open the xmit queue (of the QM name) directly and place messages there.

Therefore remote queue definitions are not always needed, this model is often used when coding reply-to-qm name logic.
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Mr Butcher
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
I prefer to leave out the xmitq name in remote queue definitions - assuming there is a xmit queue which has the same name as the remote queue manager name.


queuemangernames are subjected to change. i perfer to either specify the RQ full (using a xmitq that is more application related), or use application-specific qmgr alias in RQ instead of real qmgr names. however, every shop has its own conventions or best practises here.......


@Vitor - lol
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