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bobmq

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:09 am Post subject: MQ on Mainframes.

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Hi,

I am new to Z/OS MQ , I have worked on all other OS. Trying to do MQ admin job Z/os, could you please give some notes or refference.

I did some research and able to looks some object. But not sure , where can i check errrors and all these admin works. I am interested in learning this.

Thanks
Bob

Vitor

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:18 am Post subject: Re: MQ on Mainframes.

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bobmq wrote:

Trying to do MQ admin job Z/os, could you please give some notes or refference.

There's a specific z/OS System Admin guide in the InfoCenter, along with a number of other z/OS-specific documents. The z/OS Concepts and Planning guide is probably worth a read even if this is an existing installation to provide backgrouds.

bobmq wrote:

where can i check errrors and all these admin works.

WMQ on z/OS logs errors to the same place(s) that other z/OS software logs to; typically the SYSLOG & JOBLOG of the subsystem. You'll need a background in z/OS to effectively administer WMQ on that platform as z/OS is unlike any OS.
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:20 am Post subject:

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Start with fundamentals of z/OS, JCL, TSO. z/OS is very different from unix and windows.
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elkinsc

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: What do you mean by an MQ admin?

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If your MQ administration tasks are only to define queues and occasionally look up depths, then you need nothing more than the MQ Explorer. If you are actually expected to perform serious administration work for MQ on z/OS then your skill set needs to include:
1) JCL knowledge.
2) z/OS command submission knowledge. Know what a command prefix sting is and when and whee it can be used.
3) System automation and monitoring tools in use for MQ on z/OS.
4) Know who the system administrators are for:
a) SMF
b) DASD
c) DB2 -if you are using QSG or if DB2 is using the DB2 MQListener or their special MQ verbs.
d) CF - if you are using QSG
5) How to access and read the JESLOGs for both the master and channel initiator address spaces.
6) What bufferpools and pagesets are
7) What subsystems connect to your queue managers (CICS? IMS? )

What batch jobs connect to the queue managers?

This list is just a start of the tasks - it does not begin to cover back-ups, etc. What provisions has your company made for training?

bobmq

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject:

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Joined: 13 Aug 2013
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Thanks for the Reply.

I will start from fundamentals. I would like to do our general MQ administrations as we do in Unix and windows. yes,MQ explorer does these things , but i am interested in doing OS level. ISPF panel is something interesting like providing options

and terms like JCL , Datasets etc.

Is there any document for ISPF pannel for MQ , if so please let me know the link.

Regards
Bob

bruce2359

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject:

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Try searching google for 'mq +ispf' . Searching should be yourfirst step, and not posting here for one of us to search for you.
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gbaddeley

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject:

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bobmq wrote:

and terms like JCL , Datasets etc.

Is there any document for ISPF pannel for MQ , if so please let me know the link.

Regards
Bob

Hi Bob. You should do some training or tutorials on ISPF, the ISPF editor, JCL, Datasets and z/OS fundamentals. You need to know this stuff as well as you know UNIX shells, vi, shell scripting, UNIX processes, file systems. If you don't fully embrace this new environment you will be banging your head against the wall and making very slow progress. I'll F3 out of this conversation now...
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Vitor

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:19 am Post subject:

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bobmq wrote:

Is there any document for ISPF pannel for MQ , if so please let me know the link.

It's the document I mention above

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ipmqadm

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:00 am Post subject:

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Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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Bob,
Utilize linkedin as well. You may want to join a group called z/OS Websphere MQ Professionals to connect with other z/Os professionals for ongoing assistance moving forward.

JosephGramig

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:52 am Post subject: Re: What do you mean by an MQ admin?

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elkinsc wrote:

What batch jobs connect to the queue managers?

This list is just a start of the tasks - it does not begin to cover back-ups, etc. What provisions has your company made for training?

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ipmqadm

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:24 am Post subject: Re: What do you mean by an MQ admin?

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elkinsc wrote:

What batch jobs connect to the queue managers?

This list is just a start of the tasks - it does not begin to cover back-ups, etc. What provisions has your company made for training?

Also, keep in mind that there are numerous IT environments that won't allow MQExplorer to access the z/OS platform due to security concerns, so there really is no reason NOT to learn the ISPF panels for MQ admin on z/OS...

JosephGramig

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: Re: What do you mean by an MQ admin?

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ipmqadm wrote:

...there are numerous IT environments that won't allow MQExplorer to access the z/OS platform due to security concerns...

No environment is secure without SSL and the use of SSLPEER attributes to ensure they are who you think they are and doing what you built the channel to do.

If you just use SSL for the SVRCONN, you won't stop them from building a Qmgr and connecting to you... Even with the SVRCONN and SSL, they can still say they are WMQ Service ID (if they are clever enough).

This is why CHLAUTH rules came to be. Well, one of many reasons.

Here is a link to an article to secure MQ Explorer, MBX and WMB Toolkit with z/OS.

If you don't like the exit mentioned, use RACF SSL rules to map something in the DN to a UserID. Or CHLAUTH if you have it.

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