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  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:12 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Hi Glenn,

IBM says that it is message flooding, but we ruled this out by turning off message flooding. Despite telling IBM that it isn't message flooding, they have come back and told us it's ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

Replies: 30
Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:26 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Thanks rekarm01
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:30 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
LOL .. you just couldn't resist eh poobah
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:59 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Reply to fjb_saper

If the coupling facility is not up and fine, then we have a MUCH MUCH greater problem than MQ not starting

But .. YES ... the CF is there (and running) and the required MQ (an ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:58 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Reply to gbaddeley ...

First of all .. I am a SYSPROG with 35 years experience with MVS (or whatever you want to call it through the years), CICS, DB2, MQSeries, WAS etc. etc.. Second .. I have i ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:56 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Poobah .. you are not being helpful

I have multiple clients. I have many many QMGR's on many many LPAR's. I implemented Queue sharing more than 5 years ago

I am a SYSPROG with 35+ years of exp ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:51 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
I also said that Automation does not attempt to start the CHIN .. so there won't be any message in SYSLOG showing the start command

Pretty simple

Automation sees the MSTR address space Initiali ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

Replies: 30
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PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:47 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
This is not a new QMGR .. it has existed for 20 years ... It only started having problems since I implemented Queue Sharing.

I was hoping that someone had encountered this problem before and had s ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:43 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
I have no problems issuing MQ commands under normal circumstances

What I am saying is that when I enter them in this particular case, they are ignored .. NOTHING happens ..

The QMGR ignores me ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:53 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
I thought I mentioned .. I attempted to start the CHIN via automation ... It does not start

Sure I could have attempted to start it outside automation .. but the QMGR was ignoring my attempts to t ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

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Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:24 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Reply to Poobah ... The start command for the CHIN never gets issued so there is no log to look at

The reason it doesn't start is that it is controlled by automation. The start is triggered by the ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

Replies: 30
Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:36 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
To Dragos,

You have some excellent questions and suggestions. Thank you.

I will attempt to answer those questions that I can, and will use some of your other questions for investigation the ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

Replies: 30
Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:46 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
Hi Morag ... The text from the IBM employee in the PMR was:

"Normal problem diagnosis means that a customer HAS an error message, and does not know why they are getting it.

So, it is easy i ...
  Topic: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
TXM751

Replies: 30
Views: 40597

PostForum: Mainframe, CICS, TXSeries   Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:37 am   Subject: MQ for z/OS QMGR stalls during startup after IPL
We have recently implemented MQSeries Queue sharing (obviously on z/OS)

2 weeks following the implementation of the first Queue sharing group (which had 2 members - one on each of two LPAR's), one ...
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